Big men equal big contracts

One of the more delightful aspects of being a Nuggets fan these days is knowing how competent the team’s front office is. Masai Ujiri and Josh Kroenke have proven to be a dynamic duo that isn’t afraid to make a bold move when necessary. Through his first year and a half as the Nuggets Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations, it was as if everything Ujiri touched turned to gold. But in his most recent transaction, sending long-tenured veteran Nene to Washington in exchange for the young, enigmatic JaVale McGee, he might very well have put the first blemish on his otherwise near-perfect track record.

Why the Nuggets decided to send Nene packing hasn’t been publicly disclosed. Ujiri stated the move was made with “the big picture” in mind, specifically with the team moving in a younger direction, but that’s not why Nene found himself on the wrong end of a last-minute, trade-deadline deal. General managers don’t trade away 29-year-old franchise cornerstones with that type of reasoning. The fact is, moving forward there was something the Nuggets brass saw in Nene that they felt the team would be better off without.

Fans speculate it was a combination of his bulky contract, injuries, underwhelming play on the floor and meteoric rise of rookie, Kenneth Faried. Though all of these elements likely played a role, one more than any other stands out the most: money.

At $13 million per year, Nene was going to cost a franchise entrenched in a “youth movement” a pretty penny to keep. The Nuggets knew this from the minute they signed him, yet Ujiri and Kroenke remained determined in cajoling him to come back this summer after he made it clear he wanted to move in a different direction. When Ujiri and Kroenke became successful in their quest to re-sign the Brazilain big man, they wore smiles on their faces at his press conference that could have covered more skin than the traditional bikinis donned by the women of Nene’s home country.

Less than three months later, the Nuggets capriciously decided his contract was too much to handle. The team needed room to re-sign Wilson Chandler and eventually, Ty Lawson. Removing Nene’s $13 million-per-year contract aided in this regard but it wasn’t mandatory in order to have secured Chandler.

Coming to the conclusion that Nene’s contract was going to become an obstacle is understandable; trading him in a last-second deal for perhaps the most frustrating player in basketball wasn’t. In this sense, Ujiri committed two major errors with the Nene-McGee deal: first, he failed to maximize the return on his assets, and second, he disregarded team chemistry and the value of having a level-headed veteran like Nene in the locker room.

While it’s still entirely too early to judge the trade as a whole, some things have come to light that allow us to gauge it’s initial repercussions. The most telling has been McGee’s play on the floor. After initially starting several games and playing extremely well, McGee has since been relegated to the bench averaging close to 20 minutes per game. He commits fouls at an alarmingly high rate, many of which make no sense. His awkward spacing can negatively affect the offense and jeopardize his ability to play any sort of one-on-one defense. At times he’s like a snail coming up the floor in transition while at others it’s as if he thinks he’s a point guard, dribbling excessively after collecting a defensive rebound. On Saturday, McGee compiled one of his signature performances that have been published across the Internet when he goaltended a shot, blew a dunk, fell down and had his own shot blocked all in a 60-second span.

Saying McGee has no positive attributes is erroneous. He’s an excellent shot blocker, has a few solid post moves, can rebound well and knows how to finish around the rim with authority. The problem is, much like former Nugget, J.R. Smith, McGee can’t seem to filter the flow of negative, detrimental plays that intermix with his skill set. All too often McGee’s performances are a mixed bag of jaw-dropping, athletic displays of brilliance and nonsensical, boneheaded mistakes that leave you scratching your head. For this reason fans have no choice but to ponder how much McGee actually helps the team win when he’s on the floor and how much better off the team is with him rather than Nene.

Moving forward the Nuggets will have three options with McGee: trade him, re-sign him or let him walk as a free agent this summer. None of these will end up coming to fruition without the Nuggets front office at least looking somewhat naive.

Letting him walk solves nothing. This means the Nuggets begged Nene to return, signed him then performed a salary dump just three months later. The team will have lost not one, but two solid NBA big men and will have nothing to show for it. If this is the case, put the Nene trade down as a complete failure for the Nuggets front office.

Depending on what they get in return, trading McGee could end up paying off or taking the Nuggets right back where they started. Banking on the way he’s played thus far and his notorious reputation as one of the more difficult players in the NBA, there’s a good chance nobody is going to cut ties with premier assets for the right to secure a potential headache for years to come. A desperate lottery contender may be willing to dish out north of $10 million per year for McGee, but it certainly won’t do this in unison with sacrificing its other building blocks. So while it’s entirely possible the Nuggets turn around and flip McGee for an improved package, the likelihood is not extremely high.

Re-signing McGee is, once again, only treading water. You would have traded away a mature, professional (albeit inconsistent) veteran with a hefty contract for an immature, project-player who is also going to receive a promising payday. Before coming to the Nuggets, McGee proclaimed he’s going to be seeking $14 million per year — which is even more money than Nene gets paid — and while it may seem outlandish now, once summer hits and teams have cap space to work with, even cantankerous big men like McGee become extremely attractive assets. Fearing the possibility of losing McGee for nothing, the Nuggets might very well end up with a serious case of deja vu, having to overpay yet another big man while straddling the team’s payroll with an albatross contract once again.

In the end, this — just like all trades — can only be judged by what ultimately develops. Should the Nuggets sign-and-trade McGee to the Charlotte Bobcats for an unprotected first-round draft pick, I’ll gladly bite my tongue and admit to having prematurely labeled this trade as questionable. But no matter what, Masai Ujiri will have learned a lesson: Big men simply don’t come cheap and building a winning culture is a vital part of being an NBA general manager. Bringing in wayward sons of futile franchises isn’t usually part of the recipe.

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Kalen Deremo

Kalen was born in Durango, CO, in 1988 and graduated from Metropolitan State University of Denver in 2013 with a degree in journalism. He's now an itinerant hoping to travel as much as possible before eventually succumbing to the "real world." Aside from writing Kalen likes movies, music, spicy food and the great outdoors. Edward Abbey is his current idol.
  • stevesf47

    Very good read. First off, i cant see how mcgee will get 10+ mill by any means. I think he’ll get something around a deandre Jordan type contract of 9-10 mill per season at most. Mcgee just isn’t a player you pay to be your top 2 or 3 highest paid players. If any team signs him for more than that, well, let him walk. Bite the bullet of losing Nene. I know it’s hard to swallow, but Mcgee isn’t worth that much at all.

    Secondly, they must have a plan. Everyone knew what type of player Mcgee was if you just watched him. I’m sure our Uijiri Knew exactly what he was getting. He had to have known that Mcgee might not work out and has a plan for him if it didn’t.

    I got the impression that we wouldn’t have been able to sign chandler if we still had Nene’s deal and also be able to resign lawson next year to an extension without it taking up ALL of our cap room. So i’m guessing this was a play to get a solid C in return and be able to still make 1 more move in FA if need be.

  • GK4Prez

    I wasn’t a fan of this move when it was made, and nothing has been done to change my mind in thinking that it was a bad move.

    It wasn’t just the trade that was bad, it was the circumstances surrounding it that I dislike. Nene earned the right to be a free agent by fulfilling the terms of his previous contract and he chose to resign with the team he has always played for to stay close to where he now considers home.

    What do the Nuggets do in return, they trade him to one of the worst destinations an NBA player can be traded to. This is the same Nuggets ownership group that once said they want to keep players in Denver that want to be here, and to top it off, after this trade they sign a guy long term (Chandler) who has been linked to several reports of not liking Denver.

    I understand that basketball is business, but imo this entire situation has been nothing but bad business.

    The guy was traded less than 3 months after they begged him to resign with them, why resign him in the first place, to get something/anything in return for him, so he doesn’t walk for free with nothing to show for it? In a couple more months, they will find themselves in a very similar situation with a player who isn’t even close to being as good of a player as Nene.

    This was a last minute deal just to make a deal, and when trades are made in this fashion, they rarely turn out positive.

    • stevesf47

      I dont like the trade also. But as far as the business side of it, it’s business and it goes both ways. I’m not sure if you remember, but Nene was going to be a Rocket. That’s where he wanted to go. If the Gasol trade had gone through, they cleared enough space out to get Nene. Unfortunately for them it fell through and they gave 8 mill to Dalembert as a filler for a year. Denver was Nene’s 2nd OPTION.

      They moved Nene due to injury concerns IMO. He’s missed a good chunk of his time in Washington already. We’ll see how many games he plays next year, because that’s the only thing that makes sense with this trade is the fact they are terrified of his injury concerns and wanted to get something now before he loses value.

      • Kyle Obergfell

        So you’re saying that the Nuggets were mean to Nene????

        Remember his cancer surgery? who stood by him?
        remember all the games he was hurt? who stood by him?
        remember Nene before the season looking all but gone
        after all the Nuggets did for him? who re-signed him?

        remember all the games he took off.. injury or not..
        at best giving honest effort maybe half the time?

        Thanks to the Nuggets.. Nene is the most overpaid player
        in basketball. He’s doing ok.
        If you think the Nuggets were mean to anyone..
        it was Chauncey Billups. That one.. yeah..

        Nene? He’s making double the money of all the
        current Nuggets except Affalo and Miller..
        and he’s still making $5 million a year more than them.

        Weird… but I’m not feeling sorry for him some how

  • KW

    I think the question is ‘Are you ok with more round 1 playoff defeats?’

    I don’t think Nene was going to be able to dominate the other front lines in the W Conf. Can you really imagine him backing Ibaka under the hoop and forcing the issue?

    Nene wouldn’t even call for the ball when he had a mismatch in the 4th Q. He disappeared at crunch time.

    Even if we end up letting Mcgee walk, I’m ok with this trade.

  • 1ArmedEconomist

    As a fan, I’m curious as to why I should care about Centers? NBA games are won or lost in the 4th Quarter. Denver’s Centers don’t play in the 4th Quarter, so why care? When Nene first arrived, he was terrible. The team spent years developing him, and he never lived up to his potential. Until they make that kind of commitment to McGee, we’ll never know his potential. Bottom line: If you want me to care what happens to Centers, get a new coach who actually likes Centers and develops them by playing them when it counts.

    • http://deleted NuggLove

      RMC, haven’t you heard about “moving on”. Look what the Lakers did, they traded a great veteran but a defensive liability for a player who can play fast and sneeze on opponents. Not all veterans should stay ’til they retire, man. The Nuggets coaching staff are just helping McGee develop post moves so that he just dunks alone. Faried did not see a lot of playing time in the first half of the season because he feels lost in George Karl’s offense. But look at him now, he’s serving a great role in the Nuggets. It’s too early to tell. Players from bad organizations usually are treated bad and they play bad. It’s like DUH!

      • http://deleted NuggLove

        excuse, me. I meant the staff are helping McGee develop post moves so that he just doesn’t dunk alone.

    • Charliemyboy

      I more or less agree. Nene is still injured. McGee seems to have an ok attitude so he can learn. Consistancy is what he needs. Poor Karl has to win and develope; I don’t envy him this year. Who knows, get Gallo and Chandler back and we might win a few yet… then there is next year…

  • chronosynchlastic Infundibula

    I have mixed feelings about the trade. On one hand, I am happy to see that the front office acknowledges that this team as constructed won’t peak until Nene is 33/34 years old. On the other hand, I think Javale McNugget is an extremely risky prospect. I would be both happy and amazed if they could trade McGee for a top-ten first round draft pick.

    With 4 centers currently on the roster, I am sure the FO is up to something.

  • Legalize Denver nuggets

    I still like the trade even after we have seen McGee be a bonehead sometimes. The fact is that he can be an impact player whereas nene was invisible. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again- for every stupid play javale has had, nene had at least one dropped pass, bad pass, or had the ball stolen. A turn over is a turn over is a turn over. I guarentee we would be sitting at the same record right now had we not made that trade. And javale still has more high end if we get him at the right price. Frankly im fine with his erratic play right now because it increases the chances we can get a decent prive (altho with big men you never know). I wish nene the best- maybe this trade will be somewhat of a wake up call for him, but I have a feeling he will continue to be the same old player. At least javale wants to be the man. Now if only we can find the coach who can direct him on what to do to be the man.

  • ny nugs fan

    i think it was a good trade

    first off, if there’s one thing nene mastered in denver it was finding numerous ways to park himself on the bench and for his contract that’s a big non-starter; he’s doing the same thing with the wiz just check their nightly line-up

    secondly, i think with good coaching mcgee could be a very solid contributor; you just don’t get his length, athleticism and height every day; the nuggets already aren’t using the guy correctly; to me, what he gives you on the floor far outweighs his mistakes… i would play the guy and keep playing him the rest of this year; when you combine him with a healthy mozgoz and koufos with faried now you’re talking an athletic front that you absolutely need in the west

    and finally when you watch the nugs vs say okc, do you really think we’re gonna go all the way this year? with this coach screwing up line-ups just about every night? (no)

    and even though chandler’s fade-away reminds you of camby taking shots at the top of the key and that goofy bank shot of kenyon, you gotta think he was a more solid long-term investment

    hard decision but in the end i think it was solid

  • Ryan

    Maybe I’m the only one here who remembers Nene getting owned by more athletic/long big men and blowing layups on a nightly basis instead of dunking. Let’s just say I will never wax poetically about the loss of Nene. Regardless, I agree with Kalen that the Nuggets probably could have gotten a little more in return. Maybe Nene’s refusal to play through even minor injuries scared other teams away, who knows. The Nuggets should have either not resigned Nene or traded him for something more. I don’t think they will resign McGee unless he signs for cheap, but I’m okay with dumping Nene’s salary and keeping options open for the future

    • Kyle Obergfell

      thank you Ryan…

      Not to mention a backup point guard rolling him.

      ARE YOU MISSING CHARMIN MAN KALEN????

      not me.

      God.. what a waste Nene turned out to be.

    • 1ArmedEconomist

      My son and I had a running argument about Nene. He said Nene just didn’t really like basketball and was too culturally laid back to play well. I said he was being played out of position. That if he played PF, he was the next Karl Malone. Well, I got to see him play PF. Nene doesn’t like basketball.

  • Kyle Obergfell

    Here’s one thing to consider…
    Nene hasn’t played in the last 6 games.

    SHOCKER!!!!

    He’s hurt again..

    Wow.. hard to believe because he was such an Ironman for us.

    This was a genius trade. . Even when healthy.. he was
    half-ass with effort.
    His contract is obscene. $16M a year??? for 4 more
    injury plagued, taking plays off, games off, quarters off..

    YOU MISS THAT GUY?

    Not me.. On principle and common sense.. glad Massai dealt him.

    I was excited to see the move to PF..
    Nene will always be a liability against muscular athletic centers.

    Nene’s rebounding is one of the worst in the NBA.
    He never seems to fight for boards, never seems to
    get the offensive board.

    Wow..
    There’s a lot that went to hell this year..
    but that cause was spiraling down
    and we were hooked for 4 years with
    a salary more than twice that of any other player.

    What were the positives about having Nene again?
    What am I missing here?

  • SmokinNugs

    I love the trade. Money aside, look at McGee v Nene stats. The only thing Nene beats him in are assists and steals. Sorry, I don’t want my 5 doing ANYTHING in those categories. Blocks, points, and rebounds are what I want and McGee leads in all three. Nene did NOTHING the entire time he was here. He sure doesn’t play defense so I’m surprised this blog’s posters miss him so much after all the preaching about playing D winning games. McGee isn’t amazing but Nene is NOT a championship asset. If McGee walks after this year so be it, we’ll have plenty of cap space to sign actual talent. Either way, I’m happy to not have lackluster Nene out there doing nothing on the floor. A summer with a good team and a good coach should do wonders for McGee. Nene, well you can’t fix Nene.

    • stevesf47

      You can’t fix stupid lol. Mcgee has the lowest basketball IQ that ive seen. Yes hes a big body with lots of athletiscm, but Flip Saunders couldn’t get this guy going, who says George Karl can? He’s been in the league 4 years now. When will he mature and learn the game? Dont get me wrong, Nene had his terrible moments but one thing he did well was he knew his assignments. Mcgee barely knows if he’s on offense or Defense at the current time. Also, Mcgee hasn’t rebounded very well at all for us yet. Just because he avg 2 more rebounds for the wiz than nene did, doesnt mean anything. He needs to show it to us, on this team.

      I like the trade because it gave us options. We were able to sign chandler and have lots of money left over. We can let mcgee walk and open up 10+ mill if need be. But i will miss Nene somewhat. He was a good, solid player. Nothing fantastic but he’s definitely better than mcgee especially at this point.

      • Legalize Denver nuggets

        I think you can fix stupid with game experience and clearly defined boundaries. I don’t have faith that gk will help him- I was alluding in my last post that perhaps a better coach would. Thinking about it, in a way this is a terrible situation for him right now since he has been thrown onto a new squad with little time to gell with them due to the shortened season and with a key piece missing in gallo. With some offseason work and a full preseason (and maybe a new coach? Crossing my fingers), it could work. I realize I am ever the hopeful optimist, but you are right, it offers flexibility if his potential is not reached. When will he mature? I think he wants to right now, he’s just still figuring it out. I’m 24 and am immature as all hell. True, I’m not being paid the big bucks to be mature, but I feel for these guys, is all. Nene may be a better player, but in terms of helping the nuggets win, I’d say him and javale are equals. Knowing your assignment doesn’t mean shit when you watch them blow by you. I realize I prattled off a bunch of excuses for javale, but I couldn’t even come up with any excuses for nene and javale still is a servicable replacement. Like I said, way more upside. Or we ditch him and have the cash to make a play at someone else.

      • Kyle Obergfell

        Two words..

        Karl Malone.

        Stupid? so what..
        how much executive cognitive function do you
        need to jump up over everyone grab a rebound?

        Remember “One flew over the cuckoos nest”?

        Jack Nicholson with Chief playing basketball?

        same principle..

        I’ll take my dropouts against your Rhodes scholars
        any day.. and I’ll spot you 9 point to win at 10.

  • Ernie

    McGee’s Mom is a professional basketball player so his game should be rooted in fundamentals. You’d think that would yield a modern day and taller Kevin McHale. But he plays like one of those tall players from overseas that just picked up the game last year. No ability (or at least desire) to move his feet on defense, no sense of spacing on offense, limited post moves, terrible at the free throw line.

    And McGee just looks mentally out of it, like he’s on some kind of medication that keeps him unfocused and sad. The only thing that makes him happy is blocking shots and making tall offensive plays, so that’s all he really tries to do.

    We all agree Masai knows what he’s doing. So he must have seen this before in McGee and thought if he got a player with potential that would ease the salary dump of Nene to fans. I don’t see resigning him unless it’s at a K2 $3M to $4M price.

    • dynamo.joe

      How about McGee’s mom was a basketball player and forced her son to live out her NBA dreams?

      I don’t have any insight into Javale’s psyche or his relationship with his mother, I’m just saying the higher probability is that the parent forced the child to try and live their dreams rather (nba) than allowing them to do what they wanted (?? commercial airline pilot ala kareem in ‘Airplane’??).

  • Kyle Obergfell

    Don’t forget…

    We not only got McGee..
    but money saved paid for Chandler as well..
    and still we got some pocket change after..

    I can not believe this is even a debate..

    wow.

    • Dubz

      Thank you. Plus we got the cap flexibility to re sign Lawson next year. Let’s be honest, this team wasn’t winning a championship this year with Nene. Nene can only be expected to be kind of healthy for maybe 2 more years, than he’ll be a 30 game per year guy for the remainder of his contract. Love the guy, but he’s not worth the money.

      • Guy

        That begs the question of how much money do we give Lawson?? If the Nuggets overpay they’ll put themselves in the same box they’ve been in many times before. Lawson’s a good point guard but not great which seems to be the story of the whole Nugget roster. This is why it’s so hard to break out of mediocrity. If your paying $7-12 mil for a bunch of B rated players you quickly run out of cap space. Teams don’t trade their stars so how do you aquire someone who can lead you someplace. The Nuggets need to find a team that is tired of the lottery and make a trade and then hope they can find the right player either this year or next. Note that I’m not proposing they trade Lawson just that I recognize what he is.

  • Guy

    I agree they should have gotten more for Nene but it still was a trade they had to make. Nene doesn’t dominate offensively or defensively against ANY of the Western Conference PF or centers. Do you really want to pay Nene $13 mil a year for the next 4 or 5 years?? How much of that time will he be wearing a suit?? Your highest paid player has to give you an advantage in the playoff matchups (Dirk, Kobe, Durrant, Duncan, Lebron, Wade….).
    Frankly, the worst that will happen with this trade is the same as if we just let Nene walk last summer. I haven’t been too impressed with McGee yet but at 7’2″ he does have value. McGee is dreaming if he thinks a team is going to pay him $14 mil per year. No contending organization will pay him anything close. This draft has several PF and centers which might help the Nuggets and will come at a lot cheaper price than Nene. This is why you build a team around stars and then fill in the role players instead of the opposite. The Nuggets have no stars but they were paying Nene like one.

    • Kyle Obergfell

      The real reason Nene didn’t work out for us
      is because Mosgov didn’t work out for us.

      It would have been interesting to see how Nene
      could have developed as a PF

      I really thought the end of last year..
      Birdman made a strong case for a starting job…
      Even this year.. the team did well with him in there
      and he brought energy and attitude.. mainly on defense
      but he contributed offense as well.
      At the very least.. he was getting a few blocked shots a
      game in his 10-15 minutes.

      I don’t understand.. during crunch time with the playoffs at stake
      GK starts a rookie guard in addition to two other guards..
      but all through the year.. Mosgov struggling, Koufos hurt, Nene out.. And a veteran that has been with the team longer than anyone sits.

      I really thought Nene would have blossomed as a PF…
      he is never going to be an elite center..
      He’s one of the worst, if not the worst (it’s possible) defensive centers in the NBA.

      That’s not what you need on a 29th ranked defense.

  • Tom

    Man, both Nene and Karl are so under-appreciated on here, it’s sickening. You “fans” don’t deserve what you had the past 8 years.

    • Dubz

      Sorry we don’t settle for satisfactory results. There’s no denying what those two brought to this franchise, but there’s also no denying that it’s time to move on with both of those guys.

      • Tom

        Well, unless the Nuggets can get an actual franchise player, “satisfactory” is all anyone should expect. It’s just unreasonable to expect a ragtag bunch like this to beat a team like OKC or Miami in a 7-game series, regardless of who the coach is.

      • Eddie

        Tom, you dummy!

        Don’t you realize that Nene was not good because he was out of position at center. If he played 4 with a good 5, the Nuggies would have 50 wins.

        The reason the trade was a bust is because McGee hasn’t had the guidance needed to shape his game.

        Quite obviously, this too, is ALL Coach Karl’s fault.

        You really should have known.

  • Guy

    The one thing you could always on with Nene is that he would come to training camp out of shape. For the first half of the season he had a hard time getting the ball over the rim which is bad news when your game consists around 5 ft. from the basket. I agree that the center position hasn’t worked out for the Nuggets but Nene didn’t dominate when he did play PF. He would get dominated on a regular basis by players such as Paul Milsap, Al Jefferson, Luis Scola…good players yes but not exactly all-stars. Regardless of the position Nene should have been averaging 18 & 9 or 10 since Melo is no longer here but his numbers didn’t change at all. After 9 years you pretty much know what you’ve got in a player.
    Was the Nene trade a good trade, No, but it was needed for the long term. I commend the FO for quickly realizing their mistake at signing Nene and trading him if for nothing more than to give them flexability. The one thing I do wonder about is why did they have to take this deal?? Portland got much more from New Jersey for a comparable player in Gerald Wallace. Was that deal not available for Nene?? How much interest was there around the league for Nene??
    Nene is a better player than Javale McGee and probably always will be but the Nuggets can’t afford to spend $13 mil/yr on “pretty good” and that in itself is the reason for the trade. By the way, Nene has missed the last 5 games for the Wizards with a foot injury. Some things never change.

  • Dubz

    Nice article. McGee will ABSOLUTELY NOT get anything over $10 million a year and I don’t think he’ll get anything close to that to be totally honest. He’s lowering his FA price tag significantly with this poor showing with the Nuggets. GK has his reputations around the league, and one of them is being a great developer of talent. If McGee can’t be taught by Karl, it’s hard to picture him being taught anywhere. I hope the Nuggets do a Sign and Trade for a future 1st. Any future 1st. Let’s try to move up in this years draft with him and this years 1st rounder and draft a big. There’s a ton of them in this years class.

    • Dubz

      P.S… I think the problem with McGee is something that cannot be fixed. That is: the man is very dumb. He simply has a low IQ, and it shows. How many dumb plays do we see this man make on a nightly basis? It’s not his fault, the guy just doesn’t have much brain capacity and will never reach his full potential. Feel bad for the guy because even his mom has to defend his intelligence because he’s not smart enough to know how.

  • ny nugs fan

    i think the brainiacs who post on these boards questioning other people’s “iq” & “intelligence” are really getting ahead of themselves…really should chill out w that…i think mcgee has more upstairs than a lot of ppl who’ve regularly started for this team this year since we’re on the subject

  • Andrew

    This is just my opinion, but I think the issue with McGee is what I like to call “drift”. I see it in a lot of players who just let their minds drift sometimes when they are on the basketball court and fail to focus. It happens in most if not all other professions that require long periods of intense focus, as well. I’ve seen it in the Court room and other places. It has nothing to do with intellect, it is just a struggle to stay engaged. Instead of staying engaged, they let their minds wander. This can be the result of personal issues (see Lamar Odom), disgruntlement with a contact, fatigue, etc. If McGee can figure out a way to keep himself focused while he is on the Court, he could be amazing. If not, he’ll continue to be inconsistent.

    Just my opinion.

    • Eddie

      Interesting take, but a trial lasts a lot longer than an 8 or 10 minute stint in a highly charged atmosphere like a professional basketball game.

      There is too much going on. I can see confusion, doubt or fear, but not drift.

  • Adam

    F all you all who was talking all that Shi$! about Karl being fired! F all you mo fos talkin SHI&! about new players sucking. You are not team players! You all are team haters! I said this all a long… wait till we gel. Well… we have.

  • GK4Prez

    Mcgee played a decent game tonight. It would be nice if he can put a string of games like this one together, the team could really use it.

    • Adam

      4 Shizz with the dizz. Well, seeing how Charlie seems complexed with this win, F it, I will say dis…. Gallllowwnarrrrrrriiiii! With a fake Chris Webber snarl. This is the team that we will be. All you former haters, about lottery picks can F right off too!

  • Adam

    Oh, damn! I forgot! Chandler didn’t play! I guess that makes us a EVEN better team? LMFAO.

  • Adam

    *an

  • Adam

    Come on man, the Associated Pres ran this story 28 minutes ago…

  • Adam

    Ok, I am a sarcastic a hole, I know this, but I would give Faried a D- for this game. He was all posing in the poster shots. He was acting like he was all that! Who the F is he? he is a flippin rookie…

  • FinazzAus

    The trade that needs to happen is McGee and chandler plus our first round pick to Toronto for there first round pick (prob 5overall) and Amir Johnson (purly to make the money work). Denver then picks up Jeremy Lamb. I know at this stage everyone is calling me an idiot for wanting to trade chandler but we can’t have both gallo and chandler it will never work.
    Lamb is what we need a top pick who has a great jump shot and can play half court offense, he can defend the arc and is athletic.
    Amir johnson isn’t a bad player and would be back up for faired at the PF. We would then have to amnesty Harrington.

    This whole trade works for both team. Toronto get chandler like they always wanted and a big C in McGee. Denver would now go 10 deep of good players and have enought cap space to resign Lawson. It also works under NBA rules.
    PG- Lawson. Stone
    SG- Afflolo. Lamb. Brewer
    SF- Gallo. Hamilton. Fanandez
    PF- faired. Johnson.
    C- KK. Mozgov. Anderson

  • boris

    I also don’t like the whole IQ/stupidity discussion, as Javale seems a smart guy, perceptive. I’d describe the issues with him as more “feel for the game” – it’s not actually thinking – sometimes players can overthink. But just being able to let what is happening affect your moves positively on the court is a hard skill to learn – it can be learned, but I think most players show it early rather than late. But then Gerald Green is back in the L and most people who watched him closely thought he’d never get the hang of team basketball. So who knows what will happen.

  • Will

    nene wanted out before the season. nene took games off. nene stats are very mediocre. its a good thing nuggets got rid of his contract not bad. how much would it really cost for a center who puts up 7.8 rpg and 13.7 ppg and plays good d??? clearly mcgee shouldn’t be resigned but at least not stuck with nene.