Rapid Reaction: Los Angeles Clippers 112, Denver Nuggets 100

Denver Nuggets 100 Final

Recap | Box Score

112 Los Angeles Clippers
Danilo Gallinari, SF 24 MIN | 1-10 FG | 5-5 FT | 3 REB | 4 AST | 7 PTS | +3

Gallo has been about as inconsistent as you can be to start the season. In seven of the last 10 games he’s scored under 10 points four times and over 20 three times. His shooting stroke seems to be the root of his problems. When he’s hitting shots, everything is great; when he’s not, he’s virtually useless. Gallo is so talented in so many ways, which makes it all the more frustrating seeing him pigeonhole himself into a one-dimensional shooter’s role.

Kenneth Faried, SF 33 MIN | 3-9 FG | 0-0 FT | 9 REB | 2 AST | 6 PTS | -4

Faried is another enigma on the season. He didn’t have a bad game but he started off on pace to have an epic one — then it was as if his motor ran out of gas in only five minutes time. This is becoming quite the trend with Faried. His energy just isn’t what it was most of last year.

Kosta Koufos, C 27 MIN | 8-8 FG | 0-0 FT | 10 REB | 1 AST | 16 PTS | -4

Koufos was the Nuggets’ best player. That’s basically all you need to know to figure out how this game ended. He’s been steadily improving throughout the year and is now legitimately giving McGee a run for his money as to who’s the best center on the team. His defense and toughness were especially impressive against the Clippers.

Ty Lawson, PG 32 MIN | 5-11 FG | 4-6 FT | 3 REB | 5 AST | 15 PTS | -8

It’s hard to dock Lawson too much as he was one of the only players actually trying to make something happen. His passes need to be more precise but other than that he was pretty solid.

Andre Iguodala, SG 27 MIN | 4-9 FG | 1-2 FT | 1 REB | 2 AST | 9 PTS | -1

I still can’t figure this one out. Anybody know what the deal is with Iguodala? Please, share your secret because right now I’m dumbfounded. I knew Nuggets fans overvalued him from the start but I really thought he’d be a lot more impressive than what he’s shown thus far. Against the Clippers he was nearly lifeless. His nine points were a result of easy fast-break points, and that’s about all he did.

Anthony Randolph, PF 4 MIN | 2-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 4 PTS | +6

He’s clearly talented. He’s played well this season and had a few nice buckets against the Clippers.

Jordan Hamilton, SF 17 MIN | 7-9 FG | 0-2 FT | 4 REB | 1 AST | 16 PTS | -4

Hamilton was the second best player tonight (maybe the best?) and tied Koufos for the team lead in points despite having played only 17 minutes. If this was not a “wake up” game for Karl and the rest of his teammates, then I don’t know what is. Hamilton played with confidence against the Clippers and it showed. Not only was he scoring at a rate which none of his teammates could match, but his decision-making and vision were in top form. He made some nice passes and didn’t make the “rookie” mistakes he’s been known to fall victim to. The fact is: On nights like this, when nobody is stepping up to score, Hamilton is a great option to play 30-plus minutes because scoring is all he knows.

Quincy Miller, SF 4 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 2 AST | 0 PTS | +6

Miller had a few nice dishes and played good defense. As always, I’d love to see what he could do with a few games of solid playing time.

Corey Brewer, SF 21 MIN | 0-3 FG | 2-2 FT | 2 REB | 2 AST | 2 PTS | -29

Brewer was just not on. He’ll have games like this every now and then where he’s totally MIA.

Timofey Mozgov, C 4 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 1 AST | 0 PTS | +6

Mozgov got hit in the face with the ball because he couldn’t handle the speed of a pass. That’s all I remember from his run.

JaVale McGee, C 19 MIN | 4-7 FG | 1-2 FT | 6 REB | 0 AST | 9 PTS | -23

The stats don’t tell just how frustrating this game was from a fan’s standpoint. McGee made numerous decisions (mostly passes) where I couldn’t even begin to understand what he was trying to do. He also had several incredible blocks and nice post-ups, but I could not escape how bad his decisions were on this night.

Andre Miller, PG 23 MIN | 4-9 FG | 4-5 FT | 2 REB | 6 AST | 12 PTS | -14

Miller started off the game great with lots of aggressions but seemed to fade as it went on. Still, it’s nice having someone who gets up for big games on a consistent basis.

Evan Fournier, SG 4 MIN | 2-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 4 PTS | +6

Fournier was impressive as usual. Not a lot of time, but he made the most of it.

George Karl

Many players received bad grades tonight so it doesn’t make much sense to reward Karl. He’s the one who devises this skewed game-plan of being satisfied with playing like crap on the road as long as you can win most of your home games. While the Nuggets have had a tough road schedule, I still don’t understand how a team this deep and talented can be happy with a 7-13 road record. On a different (but similar) note, I ran into my old high school soccer coach a few days ago and he said he hates watching the Nuggets because they always have an excuse to lose. While the Clippers are on one hell of a tear these days, I can’t help but think Karl deemed this loss as considered “OK.”

Three Things We Saw

  1. Number 2: The Nuggets could not escape the hole they dug for themselves in the second quarter. The Nuggets outscored the Clippers in the other three, but simply laid an egg of epic proportions right before the half. As the Clippers began their run, the Nuggets were already hanging their heads. After several days of much-needed rest you’d think the Nuggets would come a little more focused than this.
  2. Zoned Out: The Nuggets are an easy team to defeat if you do several things. Playing zone is one of them. The Nuggets cannot score by shooting. Everyone knows this. It’s no secret. So, as long as you prevent them from penetrating they essentially implode. We’ve seen this multiple times already. Who knows how much longer it will continue? As long as the Nuggets play a happy-go-lucky style of offense with tons of freedom and no designed plays they’re never going to be able to contend when it matters most.
  3. No Number 1: The Nuggets starting five has problems. Nobody in that rotation is a lethal scorer. Even teams that have a mediocre or poor record often have guys who can go out and get buckets when need be. The Nuggets don’t have that. What they have is a team full of guys who max out at about 15 points. If everybody is on, that’s a great recipe for success… but how often is everybody on? You can say all you want about how successful the Iguodala trade was but there’s no denying how important Harrington and Afflalo were to the Nuggets offense through most of the season last year. Each of those two players carried the Nuggets for large stretches, which is exactly what the Nuggets seem to be missing at this point.
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Kalen was born in Durango, CO, in 1988 and graduated from Metropolitan State University of Denver in 2013 with a degree in journalism. He's now an itinerant hoping to travel as much as possible before eventually succumbing to the "real world." Aside from writing Kalen likes movies, music, spicy food and the great outdoors. Edward Abbey is his current idol.

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  • Stephen H

    George must go. He shows no affection and does not care anymore, and brewer’s minutes should go to j-ham, Karl j-ham can change our teams 3pt terribleness and he rebounds, dunks and runs. Karl must go and brewer and Mozgov should be traded for jj reddick.

  • Stephen H

    O and should start giving the coach grades every game.

  • googergieger

    I would have figured this “go to scorer” myth was debunked when the Lakers started happening this year.

    Meh, I was going to go on a long rant about what is wrong with Karl as our coach, how after a while certain players on this team have to have a little pride, and how we need to start playing angry and such. But really, this team has sucked the life out of me. I mean I’ll keep watching but, I literally have no hope left. If we don’t make it out of the second round come play off time and Karl is still our coach next year, I’m done.

    Stan Van Gundy! *clap* *clap* *clap clap clap*

  • Steve

    Another ugly performance…..

    Good to see Jham get some minutes and play well. I am sure that he will be on the bench tonight and not play knowing Karls MO…

    Did anyone else see the interview with Karl before one of the games last week. He was talking about playing the veterans more to build their confidence. Shouldn’t the guys who are veterans have the confidence and the newer guys need minutes to build their confidence for later in the year?

    It is so tough being a Nuggets fan. I agree Kalen…I am so sick of the excuses.

  • CJP32

    What a way to play on a National televised game, pathetic defensive effort all around.

    Faried was a beast for the first 5 mins with 4 pts and 5 rebs, then nothing.

    Gallo was 1/10 and is now 6/31 over his last 3 games – he is just infuriating to watch. Dribble, dribble, dribble, drive, get blocked or brick a shot.

    Ty was aggressive for about 5 minutes

    Iggy was just bored, he has really disappointed

    Koufos was great, and has been consistent

    CBrews -29 is not a true reflection of his play, yeah he was quiet but he didn’t have that bad of a game when he only shot 3 times. M Barnes, J Crawford and L Odom just played like All Stars when Brewer was on the court.

    JHam looked aggressive but again takes bad shots and makes bad passes, and his verbal rant at a Clipper fan will surely get him in trouble

    AR, Evan and Mozzy made an appearance

    Andre Miller didn’t really show up

    I know we have had a brutal schedule but so what? We are the 3rd youngest team in the league and we play disinterested on D. Maybe that is GKs fault but these guys just cannot string together 3-5 good games in a row. Right now, I cannot see us winning another game before 2013. Masai has to be fed up with the play of Ty, Gallo and Iggy. Wilson Chandler is not the answer. We need a shooter, we need a PF who can play in the post.

    I say get value while you can. Iggy, Ty, Gallo, McGee are all valuable to a team somewhere. Make it happen.

  • Mark from Charlotte

    Nugget fans GK will finish the season as the coach. Amiller will not be traded this year. The Nuggets are a 500 team at best. The game tonight was sad to watch, this team has so much talent. I will never understand why GK plays Lawson and AMiller at the same time.

    • Mark from Charlotte

      I agree with you Aaron

    • sKY

      GK has always had that stupid 2 pt gaurd sets.
      We really need a new pt guard.

  • Aaron

    Hamilton And Koufos Dominate And Get A’s. Mozgov Gets Hit in The Face With The Ball And Gets a A+?

    Hamilton Could Be Like LBJ Man. Except Passing. He Rebounds Well And Can Score Any Way Yuhh Want Him To. 3’s, Dunks, Put Back Dunks, Layups, Put Back Lay-up, Mid-Range, And That Quick One Handed Bank Shot. This Dude is A Stud. He Should Be Starting Or Be Coming Off The Bench The Same Time McGee Does.

    • Mark

      The Way You Type In Title Case (Each Word Capitalized) Is Very Annoying. Please Stop.

      • Tyler

        LOL true but he makes the proper point with Jham he isn’t a passer or a defensive stud but boy this kid can get his on offense and then some

      • Aaron

        Sorry, I Work For a Company That Needs Each First Letter Of a Word Caps Because The Words Are Very Small, So I Just Have a Keyboard That Automatically Does That. Ill Try An Figure Sumthin Out Though.

  • Mark from Charlotte

    DG 8 Should receive an F this guy needs to show up in a big game.

  • googergieger

    Also guys we aren’t going to get a superstar. At best we can get a Rudy Gay/Danny Granger, which really aren’t all that much better than Gallo. Might be a bit more consistent, but honestly Gallo is the better all around player. Also much much cheaper. We could get Josh Smith, but good luck getting him to resign without offering him a huge contract the likes of that Joe Johnson Albatross.

    Really we have everything we need to be successful. Just need someone to coach that talent. I mean everyone on this team is more or less told to go out there and wing it on both sides of the court. Granted we could use more consistent outside shooting but, we are getting hurt a lot more by our three point defense than our three point scoring.

  • Steve

    Our style of offense is not bad…it just requires shooters…ones who can hit an open shot. When that happens, the lanes open and ty/gallo can get to the hoop.

    This is why I harp on playing jham. he is the only real shooter we have and if he does not play, we get games like we did against PTL or the clips….clog the lane and we are sunk.

  • googergieger

    I will say this about Chandler, however. If he comes back and is able to play like he did before he came back from China, that will mean, Gallo, Iguodala, and Chandler can switch and defend anyone(except for centers of course). So our defensive game plan for every game of “switch everything” could actually work for once. Hell have Iguodala play point, Jham two guard, Chandler and Gallo forwards, and McGee center, and that’d give us our best possible defense yet still some offense line up.

  • John

    Man… it was hard to watch the Nuggets today… to watch Nash and then CP2 show what “really good” point guards look like and then watch the mediocrity of Lawson and Miller.

    Really liked 2K on Blake… he took it to him pretty hard a couple of times… and Blake was seconds from losing his cool. I think if he continues improving like this he’s gonna be good. He needs a little more of… well everything, but he is at least on the right path.

    One thing we need less of is GK. Thanks for grading him… I’ve thrown up GK grades a few times when I thought his decision making was exceptionally poor.

    JHam and Fournier are the future, give them minutes. Untii AI and Gallo figure out to make jump shots give ’em the hook. GK needs to recognize when players are off… and actually COACH. He is much too complacent… It is pretty sad when Vinny del Negro out coaches you… pretty sad.

  • John

    At this point, I want Stone healthy so I can play Stone, Fournier, JHam, Kosta, and Mozzy… and trade everyone else. Talk about nightmare match ups… 6’7″, 6’7″, 6’8″, 7’0″, and 7’1″… that’d be fun.

    Seriously, Stone has the best “handles” on the team… good vision, good passing, great D and a nice shot. He has never had to be the primary scoring option, but the one time at UTEP he was asked to, he went out and got 20+ pts.

    Just looking at our roster, we don’t have one person that is ever a threat to “go off” for 40+. The best any of our guys will give you is high 20s… I think the only one who has is Miller, who messed around and got 55 a few years back… JHam “could” be that guy, I think, if he ever gets more than 12 minutes.

  • Cephus

    If not George Karl, then who ? No, Stan Van Gundy’s plodding methodical post-up and three point dependent offense is not the answer. Who on this team has the chops to convert those anyway ? This is a young team that ran into a buzz saw. The Clippers and the Heat are the two hottest teams going right now.

    The best coach in the world is going to lose when his best scorer goes 1-10. We need a couple snipers, one less center and small forward. This GM is supposed to be a genius, get er’ done. Scour Europe, the developmental league, whatever. All the young players like Randolph, Hamilton and Fournier have no excuse not to be doing Ray Allen’s routine, if they want minutes. That’s the bottom line. Done.

  • CJP32

    One thing is clear on this team – we have 6 guys that average between 11 and 15 points per game – and thats it. This system doesn’t allow a 20 ppg scorer, because we had that in Melo and he got traded. Afflalo may have been that guy this year, but he was traded. Its like Masai and GK are trying to avoid that need – rely on 10 guys to take turns and hope that one steps up when needed.

    Except Ty, Iggy and Gallo don’t even know who is meant to do that. After 29 games, there is no ‘go to guy’ still – someone we know will take and make the big shots. Ty chokes under pressure, Iggy is too laid back, Gallo has shown glimpses of it but is not consistent enough, Brewer is ideal as a spark plug off the bench guy. JHam could be that guy, but under GK it wont happen.

    No player currently gets double teamed. We don’t have reliable outside shooters. We don’t have a post presence. We just have 12 guys that are good at one thing or another and are not great at anything in particular. A starting 5 change needs to happen, because right now its not working.

    • CJP32

      PS – if anyone thinks that the return of Wilson Chandler may help us, they are wrong. He cannot resume practising until January, so he wont suit up to play until mid January, he wont be fit to play 20+ minutes for at least 10 games, (so by the trade deadline).

      I believe that January is make or brake for Masai, we have 12 of the 15 games at home. If Denver don’t win at least 10 of those 15, he will pull a major trade. Ty, Iggy, Gallo, McGee – none are safe. He needs to save money for 2013/14 as Iggy alone will cost 16+ million (he wont walk away from that coin).

      • googergieger

        Tough situation as the trades he could most likely make wouldn’t really make the team all that better I reckon. Maybe better financially. Maybe get a few picks. I’d hate to see this team be forced to bottom out. Though I’m sure they could load up on a ton of picks if they did that.

        • dynamo.joe

          “Ty, Iggy, Gallo, McGee”

          Which of those guys is playing upto or above his contract to make him attractive to another team?

          All of those guys are getting paid now.

          Faried, Koufos, Mozgov, A. Miller, Hamilton, Brewer, those are the guys that are outplaying their contracts and so have value for other teams. Of those I would think Faried is untouchable and Mozgov and Brewer are the most tradeable because they get extra value by way of also being expiring contracts.

    • Mark

      What bugs the crap out of me is that we had what we needed, and we either traded them or let them walk. Billups and JR Smith had faults, but they knew how to put a dagger in a team with a clutch 3. Let’s face it, Felton is a better PG than Lawson. Explain it away all you want, but the Nene for McGee trade was the beginning of the end of my being a Nuggets fan (McGee is one of the worst players I’ve ever seen in the NBA). And now we’re actually learning that Harrington is better than Iguodola, at least under this coach. It’s just too frustrating being a Nuggets fan.

      • dynamo.joe

        Is this irony?

    • Guy

      I couldn’t agree with you more. The Nuggets are officially in NBA nowhere land. There too good to get a decent lottery pick and not good enough to get out of the first round. Now they have too many big contracts which soon teams will figure out they’re not worth trading for.
      We’ve seen this same senario over and over for the Nuggets in 1995-96 (Mutumbo’s Nuggets), with McDyss, Van Exel and Lafrenz and in 2009-2010 after the Nuggets made the Conf. Finals. The Nuggets and their fans always over estimate their talent level and never take the steps nessesary to really become an elite team. I don’t know whether it’s incompitence or if they just don’t care. I do agree with anothers point that there aren’t any difference making stars on the market at this time and this upcomming draft looks weak on the surface. At this point I’d like to see our younger players play just to see if they can. We’re running out of time on Jham, what have they got to lose?

      • googergieger

        Why does a team need lottery picks? To get young talent that can grow into something special? We have young talent that can grow into something special, however they are all being taught to swim by simply being thrown in the water. We need someone to teach our young talent how to play the right way and how to make them better. I mean our guys ceilings are pretty amazing. Ty could be a better Tony Parker. He’s faster, stronger, and has a better shot(well he should). McGee’s ceiling is much higher than Howard’s. Gallo could be a poor man’s Lebron with a better shot. Faried could be a second coming of Rodman with some offensive capabilities and no off court problems. And the thing is Faried and McGee clearly want to learn and clearly want to get better. Gallo would jump at the chance to be an all star, and worst case scenario Ty wouldn’t be relied upon as much as he is now. I love Ty’s ceiling and he seems like a great kid, but sometimes he seems so disinterested out on the court.

        Oh and J-Ham could reach the potential J.R. Smith has never been able to. Kid is clearly talented and clearly humble and willing to do whatever it takes to get minutes and get better.

        • Guy

          Ty Lawson will never be better than Tony Parker because he doesn’t have the same lateral quickness or the consistant 2pt. jumpshot. Plus he doesn’t have the mental toughness. It’s no accident the Spurs finish in the top 3 every year in the Western Conf.. There are no allstars on this team and the sooner the Nuggets figure this out the better. Allstars give consistant effort and results every night. No one on this team does and I just don’t see it happening.

  • googergieger

    Afflalo couldn’t have been that guy, I mean he could but in the same way any number of our guys can. In that they could shoot a lot to score a lot. Honestly, Gallo, Ty, Dre, J-Ham, Chandler, and Fournier are better shot creators than Afflalo. Even Iguodala who has a bit of a sloppy handle when trying to create for himself.

    Gallo has shown glimpses but the team constantly goes away from him, even when he is clicking. Karl wants to run things through his point guards, Ty especially. However Ty clearly would rather run set plays and be the number two or three guy on the team. They should send Gallo to the dream and have Dre teach him some post up moves for right now. That way when his shot isn’t falling and he isn’t comfortable getting to the rim, he can post up. He posts up occasionally now, but his post up game is clearly just him making it up as he goes along. That works for Lebron James(his post up game has no alibi), but Gallo isn’t that strong.

    McGee actually has a post up game now though. Just he doesn’t get the time and this isn’t the system for him to get better with it. The spacing is awful and he never has an option to pass out of the double team to.

    Also the reason Stan Van Gundy would be better than Karl is our problems are more defensive than offensive. Seriously that Portland game should show everyone, even if we are absolutely worthless beyond the three point arc we can still win games, however we can not win games if we just let the other teams shoot wide open three’s.

    I mean look at what SVG did with Howard and the Magic defensively. We have much better one on one and help defenders, and McGee could develop into a Dwight on defense with a longer wing span and honestly more athleticism. Also Stan does adjust to his roster as was shown when Dwight went out with back problems. Magic still competed. Granted winning would be better, but this is a much more talented squad than he ever had with The Magic. Except for when they went to the finals.

    • Mark

      Good point about Gallo. When he gets cold (and man, does he get cold), it seems like he just starts shooting from farther and farther away and hopes the coldness just goes away. He needs to learn to post up and hit some easier buckets to build his confidence back up. Isn’t this an example of something a coach should be saying to his players? Seems like Karl doesn’t say anything to anyone; he seems to think his whole job is just deciding how many minutes each guy is going to get.

      • dynamo.joe

        Well let’s hope that’s not the case cuz he clearly has no idea how to assign minutes.

      • GK4Prez

        Gallo has shot 50% or better in only 6 games this season, and he has shot 40% or worse in 18 games this season. I don’t think he is ever going to become much more than what he already is.

        This team has tried to make him a 1st or 2nd option, but he is more like a 3rd or 4th option. He is a good basketball player, but I don’t think he will ever become a 1st or 2nd option because he is way too inconsistent.

        You really don’t know what you are going to get from game to game from him, and you should be able to pencil in some sort of a production number with a 1st or 2nd option, and you can’t do that with Gallo, and it’s not just scoring. One night he will grab 9 rebounds, the next he will get 2. One night he will dish out 4 assists, the next night he will have 1, etc…

        I like the guys overall game, and I think he is a good basketball player, but I don’t/haven’t seen much development out of him while he has been in Denver. In fact, his numbers have been going in the opposite direction (spiraling down) since he has been in the league.

  • OriginalJakeSauce

    Glad to see homeboys crying out for SVG. Been screaming it for a year and a half… I admit to backing off a bit when I saw the Nuggs take the Lakers to 7. I haven’t seen that team once this year though. I have to think the problem is george.

    I can think of several turning points where it seems he’s felt “Zenmaster” and refused to call the timeout and actually been “Endmaster” for any kind of positive emotion or momentum for the team. I have literally gone to bed on 6 of our games this year, and on nights like last night I was pumped tto go against a hot team that we favorably match up against. The reality is the GK no longer favorably matches against anyone. Everyone knows he’s just gonna try to outrun you, he doesn’t want to get toe to toe and fight. It’s pussyball, and I’m tired of it.

    Fire George and have a magic 8ball set on a timer with our lineup on it’s answers. Turn the timer every 5 minutes and make the appropriate substitution… me might win a road game that way….

    • Mark

      Ha! Good one about the magic 8 ball. It would be as effective as Karl.

  • Mark from Charlotte

    Nuggets fans all of us are aware that GK is the problem with this team.

  • devin

    quit crying and making excuses for reals. yeah i want the team to win as much as everyone in here, but its not going to make it better coming in here and start demanding trades and how we should fire karl. you guys have to be patient we still got alot of games left. if not the okc,clipper,heat,knick bandwagon is right there for each one of you.

  • devin

    quit crying and making excuses for reals. yeah i want the team to win as much as everyone in here, but its not going to make it better coming in here and start demanding trades and how we should fire karl. you guys have to be patient we still got alot of games left. if not the okc,clipper,heat,knick bandwagon is right there for each one of you!!

    • John

      If something doesn’t work, you fix it or get a new one. This team + this coach doesn’t work. So some things need to change to fix it.

      Karl, Lawson, Gallo, et al have been ample time and money to improve individually and all have seemed to hit their threshold. None seem to have the inner fire required for “greatness” all are too low key.

      I’ve said this before… We need a Team Leader, not more team players. Only Alpha Dogs need apply.

      Amazingly, I think that Kosta is the closest thing we have… Manimal “may” fall into this category, but realistically I see him as a 6th man. JHam and Fournier may… but I need to see more minutes and more swagger.

      Its time for a new direction, whether that happens today or this summer does’t matter, but as a fan I’m ready now, so… WHO’S GOT NEXT.

      • googergieger

        Again we don’t need a new team, just a new coach. This team is plenty talented, and seriously no one walks in a leader. No matter what b.s. the NBA propaganda machine wants to tell you. Gallo has shown he isn’t afraid to hit the big shot or take on the tough defensive assignment. Andre Miller for all his faults does talk to the team and try to calm them down sometimes. Though funnily enough Fournier seemed to have calmed him and the rest of the team down in that Portland game. I mean look at Phili, no leader there and yet they don’t have the problems we have. Same with Houston and no Harden isn’t a leader. He just gets to the line and sets his team mates up. Wolves? Kirelenko is clearly the most important player on that team and most people would say Love is the leader of that team.

        Point is all those teams have coaches that lead them. Which is as it should be. Great if you have a leader on the court to repeat what the coach said, but we have a young team that NEEDS to be coached. That can’t reach their ceiling or become better basketball players if all they are told is “run” and “switch”.

        Also Ty barely got meaningful minutes last year in his first season as a starter and Gallo has been here a year and a half. So stop with the plenty of time for them to prove themselves.

  • Mark from Charlotte

    Good point Devin, but Gk needs to be replaced after the season………………

  • TB

    I was at the game and it sucked. I hate how our high pick and roll is completely ineffective unless Miller is running it. But I also hated how Blake griffin was allowed to play lead blocker on DeAndre Jordon’s oop by shoving guys out of the way to clear a path. Lamar Odom undercutting Faried on a lob in the 4th, then pretending to offer to help him up only to walk away was the icing on the cake. All while the clips were up by 20. I am also sick of all the bandwagon clippers fans who now fill the stadium. Worst Christmas game ever.

    • John

      Agreed… I counted 4 blatant offensive fouls by Blake on one play. None were called.

  • al68

    Our style of play is not good for these players. The game quickly and 1×1, needs more physical and versatile players, players with outside shooting and who can go to the hoop.
    It is easy to defend Gallo always going to the basket because he can not throw.
    Iggy also only known to the basket from the right and has no outside shot.
    Gallo should not play more than 24 minutes.
    Like Lawson gallo and Iggy.
    Brewer, Faried and Mcgee, do not know the basics of basketball team and also do not defend anything.
    Koufos is the best within their means not many.

    Nor do I like a team that needs to play very physical and play around with TY andre while.

    I feel really bad for GK apathy but Iggy’s outrageous in his first year in Denver.

    I think we should keep the coach until end of season, and try to trade with KK is the best asset that we have now, for a shooter.

  • Zorba

    Only kk and jh did their best. Now please just stop saying “more minutes for McGee…” or “McGee starter…”. You must deserve your time and you must prove it on the floor…
    Gallo needs to start playing for the team and understand when he must stop shooting… 1-10 wtf… And GK should give more time to jh and Fournier. Seems they can give solutions off the bench and they must be given a chance…

  • ny nugs fan

    koufos an a- minus… really? don’t get me wrong i like the guy but against an athletic, physical team like the clips he’s actually a liability

    and the nuggets actually have physical lineups with scoring that they could play against a team like the clips but they just didn’t use that last night

    i’m thinking something like manimal, mcgee, randolph, gallinari, lawson/miller… then is you want more scoring you could sub in hamilton

    but last night it was just one head scratching line-up after the next

    i contend that the nugs did not and do not need a team as deep as the clips to beat and/or keep the game close longer than we did… the players to do so are right on that roster

  • fire GK

    please, nuggets. lose the next 5 so there is a reason for George to go. UGH, i hate rooting for this team (and spending $$$ on season tix)

  • Andrew K

    This team may be at 15-14, and under achieving majorly (by so-called experts), but you will not convince whatsoever that George Karl doesn’t care anymore. An NBA coach can only do so much. The players are the ones that need to step it up. The frustration on their face after they make a mistake tells me that they know they can play better. The shots will hopefully start to fall.

    • googergieger

      Players need to step up? When the rotation is a complete and utter mess? When we run no plays on offense? When our defense is switch everything? When guys like McGee are taken out for a mistake or when they are playing great, yet guys like Kofous, Dre, and Brewer(who I appreciate for always coming in ready to play and his clearly love of the sport) who make the same mistakes McGee does get their minutes no matter what?

      Our offense surprisingly isn’t the problem. Our offense should show how much talent this team has, considering the offense is “wing it”. Our defense is the problem, and at the very least Karl should start holding players accountable for giving up wide open three’s. At the very least he should start calling time outs to stop runs or to calm our guys down when they need it.

      I know this arm chair coaching is easier said than done, but considering all the Karl supporters can only say he is a good coach because he is a good coach, that should be argument enough as to why we need a clear change. Unless you all are happy with a new excuse every year as to why we have a low play off seed and why we get bounced out of the first round every year.

  • Herman VanNess

    It’s sad but, I really do not enjoy watching this team play. They are poorly coached. Plain and simple. Players are regressing. The offense is horrible. Roles are not defined. Players are playing to their weaknesses instead of their strengths. Defensive rotations are terrible. They’re always stuck in bad switches. Just really frustrating to watch. It’s time for GK to go. It was a pretty good run but, it’s time. Just like it’s time for Andy Reid.

    Unfortunately, while I feel GK hasn’t gotten the best out of this roster I feel the roster is flawed. A team full of 6th men. Third or fourth offensive options at best on good teams.

    • Mark from Charlotte

      Good point Herman. If GK is replaced after the season. Name a coach you would like to see next season.

  • Ckwizard

    The thing that needs to happen is a set rotation and be two deep at every position then let the productive players have increased minutes. This means have the second player come in for the starter…. What is Fournier’s position? Is he a one two or three on this nuggets team, in my opinion he is a two and should be coming off the bench to take Igoudala’s responsibilities…. Miller or Lawson should never be the two because they are not able to accept Igoudala’s responsibilities. This team needs thing to be simpler because it is obvious that defensive responsibiltes are being neglected or just not met by the positioning of certain players. The two gaurd line up of Lawson and Miller will not beat the clippers in the playoffs… Lawson and Fournier potentially could. Miller and Fournier potentially could. The four and five positions might be the same offensively but they are not defensively. That is the problem with GK system in a nutshell, while the offensive responsibilities are able to be assigned to GK lineups those same lineups do not always meet the defensive needs against that nights opponents. Every opponent is different and GK needs to start substituting based on defensive needs instead of offensive fluidity. He preaches stops but does nothing to help the team achieve them once he starts substitutions.

  • googergieger

    Refs going to make sure Lakers win this one. Fucking bull shit! Not even hiding this cheating!