Instant Reaction: Nuggets 121- Thunder 118

January 20, 2013
by Matt

[Note: Our apologies for the delay in the Rapid Reaction tonight. We were having site issues which prevented it from getting posted in a more timely manner. And just so you know, this post was written by new Roundball Mining Company contributor Matt Cianfrone. You can follow him on Twitter at @Matt_Cianfrone. -Joel]

Oklahoma City Thunder 118 FinalRecap | Box Score 121 Denver Nuggets
Danilo Gallinari, SF 38 MIN | 5-11 FG | 5-8 FT | 6 REB | 3 AST | 3 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 18 PTS | -2Gallo was invisible in the first half of this game, partially due to foul trouble, and outside of a spurt in the third quarter and a nice drive late, it continued into most of the second half as well. He did a good job of making things tough on Kevin Durant when he was matched up with him though which raised his grade a bit.
Kenneth Faried, SF 40 MIN | 7-12 FG | 2-6 FT | 10 REB | 4 AST | 1 STL | 4 BLK | 3 TO | 16 PTS | +5The only thing that kept Faried from getting an A+ for tonight’s game were the two big free throws he missed with just 10 seconds remaining in overtime. It ended up not mattering because Nick Collison picked up a offensive foul on the ensuing inbounds play, but the results could have been disastrous for the Nuggets and that has to be taken into account. But the rest of the night Faried was incredible, his numbers don’t tell anywhere near the story of what he did. He brought great energy from the outset of the game and seemingly frustrated the Thunder bigs into ineffectiveness. It was a fantastic effort from the Manimal, and one that the Nuggets needed to see against a physical front line.
Kosta Koufos, C 21 MIN | 5-7 FG | 0-0 FT | 11 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 10 PTS | +4While Koufos didn’t have quite the impact that Faried did due to foul trouble, when he was on the floor he was incredibly effective. Koufos had only three offensive rebounds but was able to keep balls alive all night that his teammates then controlled. He also did a great job at flashing to right in front of the rim as his teammates drove and finished most of the opportunities those flashes gave him. The foul trouble limited his minutes and therefore his grade but for the 21 minutes he played Koufos was every bit as important as any Nugget on the floor.
Ty Lawson, PG 45 MIN | 4-13 FG | 3-4 FT | 5 REB | 9 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 7 TO | 11 PTS | +8The nine assists are nice but the rest of Lawson’s night was dreadful, especially his play on the final possession of regulation. Lawson dribbled out the clock and didn’t even get a shot up in time which is the worst play someone could make in a close game. Even if the shot was released in time it was a terrible one, as Lawson seemed to lose track of the time left on the clock and started his drive too late. And that doesn’t even account for his turnover two possessions before. Just not a good night for Ty.
Andre Iguodala, SG 27 MIN | 4-8 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 3 AST | 2 STL | 1 BLK | 3 TO | 9 PTS | +6Offensively Iggy struggled again tonight finishing with only nine points but he did a good job on the other end of the floor, where for most of the night he was matched up with Russell Westbrook. While Westbrook had 36, he was only 10 of 26 from the floor, and most of the makes came late in the game when Andre Miller was defending him, not Iguodala. Part of why the Nuggets got Iggy though was to help create offense, and with only 9 points and 3 assists he didn’t do that, and he wasn’t in the game late to help on defense, so its hard to go with much more than a C+.
Corey Brewer, SF 34 MIN | 9-17 FG | 5-7 FT | 6 REB | 3 AST | 1 STL | 1 BLK | 3 TO | 26 PTS | -7While Faried’s energy helped frustrate the Thunder bigs, Brewer’s energy helped frustrate the Thunder perimeter players all night. And that doesn’t even take into account his offensive explosion that included three long balls. It was a fantastic night for Brewer who helped guard the trio of Durant, Westbrook, and Kevin Martin and did a pretty good job on all three, minus some dubious calls on Durant throughout the night. A great night from Brewer overall, who was easily the Nuggets best player on the night.
JaVale McGee, C 17 MIN | 3-7 FG | 2-3 FT | 4 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 8 PTS | 0JaVale’s night started good with a running hook on Serge Ibaka but that was about the best it got for him. He was late on rotations, forced multiple shots from the block and even missed put backs from point blank range. Throw in a goaltend and its safe to say that the 17 minutes were more than enough, if not too many, for McGee on the night.
Andre Miller, PG 28 MIN | 4-10 FG | 2-2 FT | 1 REB | 3 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 11 PTS | -3The Thunder are a really tough matchup for Miller and his specific skill set and it showed in this game. There isn’t really a player that Dre can beat on the offensive end of the floor, which showed in his 4-10 shooting, and defensively there isn’t really a player for him to guard except Thabo Sefolosha. But George Karl continued with his philosophy of playing his two point guards late and Miller got eaten up on both ends of the floor. In fact on Gallo’s drive late in the 4th quarter Miller stood out-of-bounds, taking an already non-threat because he can’t shoot, completely out of the play. Miller wasn’t very good on the night, but Karl didn’t help him by playing him as many minutes as someone who could help more in a game like this such as Iguodala.
Wilson Chandler, SG 16 MIN | 4-8 FG | 4-4 FT | 4 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 12 PTS | +4Chandler knocked down the two biggest shots of the game for the Nuggets, the two free-throws that put them up 3 with just 5 seconds left. He continued to be aggressive attacking the basket when he is in the game and helped the Nuggets defend the final couple of Thunder possessions well. The shooting once he gets to the rim should improve as he continues to work rust off too, which will only open up the outside for him more.
George KarlI was fully ready to give Karl an A for the night until the final few minutes of regulation, when due to some poor decisions the Thunder came roaring back into the game. First of all why was Andre Igoudala sat in favor of Andre Miller? Miller was getting torched by Russell Westbrook, who had 7 points, two assists and a missed layup in the final 2:50 of the fourth quarter when Miller was the primary defender on him. On the offensive end things weren’t much better in that time, as Miller was blocked on his only shot attempt and literally stood out of bounds on another possession. Then on the final play of overtime Karl drew up an isolation for Lawson and we all know what that brought. Yet in overtime nothing changed as the same group that finished regulation and blew the lead for the Nuggets started the extra period. What Karl did well though was keep his team under control and focused in a game that was terribly officiated, and mostly on the wrong side for the Nuggets. But the late game decisions just don’t allow me to give Karl anything more than an average grade.

Four Things We Saw

  1. Lost Possessions: Despite the win the Nuggets had 23 turnovers, a number that is just way too high for a team who doesn’t shoot the ball well. If they were able to cut that number down the game probably wouldn’t have been anywhere near as close as it was, especially because a couple came late in the game as the Thunder made their run.
  2. Gained Possessions: What allowed the Nuggets to get away with those 23 turnovers was the fact that they had 20 offensive rebounds. Chandler, Faried, Koufos, and Brewer all had 3 or more, and the extra possessions allowed for the cancellation of some of the turnovers and kept the Nuggets alive. It was great work against a team that has great size with Kendrick Perkins, Serge Ibaka, and Kevin Durant on the front line, and most of it came down to hustle plays.
  3. Wasted Possessions: The Nuggets had a chance to end the game in regulation but weren’t able too because of a couple of problems. The biggest of those was a lineup issue as the grouping of Brewer, Miller, Lawson, Gallo and Faried made spacing difficult. With Miller, Brewer and Faried on the floor the Nuggets were playing with three non-shooters allowing the Thunder to help from all over the floor especially once Lawson or Gallo started on drives since there was only one semi-respectable outside threat left on the perimeter. Yet the only other option to attack in the isos that Karl wanted was Miller, who struggled to score in a game with so many athletes. His late game drive showed this, as his jumper was blocked by Kendrick Perkins, the worst athlete on the Oklahoma City roster. While the Nuggets don’t have a lot of shooters the last possession was perfect for letting Iggy create and surrounding him with Chandler, Lawson and Gallo spotting up with Faried ready to chase an offensive rebound. But instead the Nuggets went with the two guard lineup they are so fond of and it almost cost them the game.
  4. Condolences: Thunder head coach Scott Brooks coached Sunday’s game despite the death of his mother on Saturday. Roundball Mining Company would like to extend their condolences to the Brooks family during this difficult time.
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 10:32 pm | filed in Uncategorized | 59 Comments
  • ryanvdonk

    another 2 point guard lineup, another blown fourth quarter lead…oh and then when a defensive substitution comes, andre miller stays in, the person who refuses to guard people at the 3 point line till they have the ball, the one who gets blown by multiple times a game…

    • Charliemyboy

      Last 5 of 7 games won in the 4th after being down. Think

    • SmokinNugs

      Every time Miller is on the floor Ty goes into this unconfident terrible mode. Turnovers, poor shots, driving to the hoop looking to pass not score. If Miller leaves town, Ty will make HUGE strides. Mark my words.

      I can’t believe GK’s grade is better than a D. The final 4 minutes featured all his usual garbage, 2 PGs, poor play drawing, no center, Miller over Iggy, Gallo not being the primary option, etc.

      That being said I’m very happy with the W. It should never have been that close considering we were up 10, but the Thunder are good and GK loves small ball.

      • mcz84

        AMiller shouldnt play more than 15 minutes, thats what i think.Plz GK NO MORE SMALL LINEUPS TO END GAMES!!!.i I get so frustrated watching our lead dwindle because of Amiller

      • Charliemyboy

        What was the score? Who won?

  • Gorillabuddy

    Brewer > Iggy

    • GIANLUCA

      GALLO B- … 5/11 with 3/7 3 point …
      KEVIN DURANT 3/10 3 point and 4/10 2 point ….
      7/20 total …

      GALLO A … karl fire BUT brewer > Iggy 15$

      • Evan Woodruff

        Iggy > Gallo

        • OriginalJakeSauce

          I feel like ^ is trolling…. Iggy is not better than Gallo. Freethrow liability that Gallo isn’t and AI8 is.

  • googergieger

    If it wasn’t for the refs this would have been a blow out for us. We finally played with some much needed attitude and hopefully this carries over to the rest of our games. We need to play angry. Even Karl was animated and standing up for his guys. Can’t even be negative tonight about anyone on our team. We beat a team that was gifted about thirty points tonight who even without the refs would be one of the top three or so teams in the league. We can beat the best. We just have to stay consistent like the best. Really impressed by Faried’s D tonight and Gallo’s toughness.

  • AaronCAPS

    Lol Wow, GK is HORRIBLE! Almost lost us the game (again) by drawing up awful plays at the end of the game (again) kept the DUMBEST lineup possible at the end (again). In a way I wish we would have lost this game just so we would be 1 step closer to getting GK fired.

    Thank God our players showed up though or it would have been extremely embarrassing (again).

    Any1 else on the trade Iggy while we can bandwagon with me yet!?

    • miguel

      i think karl did ok with the lineups today, it was the refs who almost gave okc the game. i love the way karl close this game out.

      • AaronCAPS

        Yeah, the refs were absolutely terrible, but still like Matt said. GK had an A unroll the last few minutes when he choked.

        • miguel

          i the only thing i didnt like was the last play in the 4th quarter, other than that he was pretty solid. he put the right guys to guard Westbrook and Durant and guard them well in till refs begun giving them undeserved free throws.

          • AaronCAPS

            But still we almost blew an 11 point lead with like only 3 minutes left in the game. Mainly because GK wouldn’t adjust and take miller out and put iggy or Chandler in so Westbrook couldn’t dominate Miller.

            • http://yahoo mile high

              Yet still we won. Why ignore the fact that GK adjusted the line-up that ended the OT and we got to beat OKC? Cheer up!

        • Charliemyboy

          Wrong. We won on a team that capitalizes on surges at the end. Team and especially Karl were ultimately and collectivelty terrific. 6th highest winning coach in history.

          • SmokinNugs

            I wonder how many wins he’d have if he never had Melo who just took the team on his back for 6 years regardless of what GK was doing.

          • Ryan

            Meaningless stat. If you hang around long enough, you’re gonna get a lot of wins. Don Nelson is the all-time leader in regular season coaching wins. Would you call him the best coach in NBA history? No one has consistently done less with more than GK…

            • Charliemyboy

              OK then, where is Karl on % of games won?

              • Charliemyboy

                I checked it. GK is at. 595. That makes him the 10th best in the history of the game. Except for Jordan, he would have a title. I love his tenacity at his age.

    • mcz84

      Totally agree with you on trading Iguadola while we can, trade him for P.Millsap.I cringe everytime he shoots Ft’s or 3pointers

      • dynamo.joe

        You shouldn’t be unless he is taking that 3pt shot from the right baseline where he is 13% on the season. From everywhere else beyond the arc he is shooting 36%.

        This idea that Igoudala can’t shoot is overblown.

        • nugswin

          Hell, the idea that he’s playing poorly is overblown.

  • calvin

    that’s the gallo i want to see!! he was playing fearless and aggressive. i hopefully he brings that toughness and attitude to every game from now on.

    • GIANLUCA

      this GALLO in B- ???
      the cause is the first 2 quarter ,….
      IN A OVERTIME MATCH when he destroy KD with his defense ,,, KD this % 1 TIME IN 1 YEAR …

      • Evan Woodruff

        Iggy >> Gallo

  • googergieger

    I do give Karl credit on getting a tech for his team and the coaching staff for sticking up for McGee and a few other players tonight. He himself said that is something he should probably be doing more of. Maybe this means that even though we’ll see the same ole two guard line up and needless small ball line ups in general, he will at least start to show some passion and hopefully get his team fired up for every game hear on out. Or at least the majority of them.

    • GK4Prez

      I thought this was one of GK’s better games. He took a tech for the team and was on the refs for much of the night, which helped the Nuggets because they didn’t really complain to the refs a lot even though they should have. GK also went offense/defense in OT, and it shocked the hell out of me.

      He did let OKC come all the way back from an 11 point deficit without calling a timeout, and he was using the Manimal at center in crunch time with a 2 pg lineup again, so I can’t give him too much credit, but I will take the positive baby steps that he did take…lol

  • Jazz

    I’ll say this to i’m black and blue and gold. Someone please tell Karl stop with this 2 piont guard stuff. Hey Masai maybe you need to trade one, Miller or Lawson. This will shut it down. Iggy or Chandler should play the two. Go Nuggets

    • GIANLUCA

      quote QUOTE quote QUOTE quote….

      the cancer of Nuggets are the ‘small’ player …
      LAWSON MILLER IGGY W.CHANDLER

    • Charliemyboy

      I hope you read the stats on the effectiveness of the two guards. This is where fact overrides opinion.

  • Slurm

    I don’t know what it’s going to take for Karl to quit having Lawson drive in when it’s the final play. I can recall 3-4 times Lawson hasn’t even gotten the ball off for the final shot. Everybody knows it’s coming and it’s so easy to stop, try something else.

    • Charliemyboy

      I agree. Gallo is out best kick out option; perhaps Will eventually. Also, Iggy, please do not take the first shot of the game. The first shot should be designed for Kenneth to rebound, probably a put back.

  • John

    Hey Nuggets… MAKE YOUR F-IN FREE THROWS… oh, and maybe play defense once in a while…

    Someone needs to tell JaVale he is not a PG… I think the thing that frustrates me most about this guy is that he doesn’t just make 1 mistake… he compounds them… a blown dunk, a missed rotation, a turnover, an errant pass, and a technical, all within about 3 trips up and down. Then to make matters worse he doesn’t LEARN. How many times this season have we seen him try to lead the fast break and throw it away… 4 – 5.

    All in all an OK win… about the best we can hope for with what we’ve got.

    • googergieger

      You can go that way with plenty of people. How many passes and miscellaneous loose balls slipped through Koufos’s hands to start the game? How many men did Miller leave wide open tonight? Etc…

      Tonight we saw a step in the right direction in regards to McGee. Karl and the staff stood up for him. That wasn’t a goal tend and everyone argued for him. They believe in McGee and while taking him out when he is playing sloppy is what should be done, not talking to him about it or not showing him you give a damn, is the absolute last thing that should be done. Also take away the horrible officiating and we played great defense tonight. Well Gallo, Iguodala, Faried(really impressed tonight), Koufos, Chandler, Brewer even Ty in spurts played great D. I mean look at Durant’s numbers. Really probably only deserved about eight trips to the line at most. Which would have been 25 points on 20 shots all of which were tough ones. Gallo more or less shut him down. Especially in that first quarter. Don’t try to minimize this win. This was a blow out for us. Take away that god awful officiating and we beat Thunder by twenty tonight. I understand not getting your hopes up with this inconsistent team but they did plenty to be proud of tonight. Faried and Gallo especially turned up the attitude and looked great for us tonight. Brewer always plays with this type of attitude for us and luckily his shot was falling tonight for us too. With that said, we still aren’t getting hands up to challenge shots and not enough people are running people off the three point line. Line ups are still crazy but OKC doesn’t have the bigs to make you pay for it, thankfully. But again, great win for our guys tonight. More positive than negative to take away from this one.

  • CkWizard

    Ty didn’t have a great game but he did have a positive assist to turnover ratio and scored some, that is all it takes for this team to win against the best teams in the NBA. The Nuggets can play ok D and any of our wings including Igoudala can put up 20+ on any given night. As Ty goes so does the team.

    • googergieger

      I think most of that has to do with the ball always being in his hands. This team wouldn’t be so dependent on him(which would help him too) if Karl just fed the hot hand. With Iggy, Ty, Gallo, and even Miller being capable if not great play makers, only one has to be “on” for us in order to succeed. Just don’t go away from them for no effin reason.

    • GK4Prez

      9 assists and 7 turnovers isn’t anything to get excited about, he is a pg, but he turned it over every time that the Nuggets had numbers. Those were easy points that were left on the court.

      • CkWizard

        Read my post I wasn’t excited about Ty’s performance, what I was saying is This Nuggets team is so good that it can win against anyone as long as Ty gets then involved. In the last game against the Thunder Ty hade 1 assist and 4 turnovers and the nuggets got smoked. As long as Ty is aggressive and creates for others the Nuggets are fine as is. I am of the Replace GK camp…. Because I think GK is holding the talent on this team hostage and the Nuggets could be managed different with better results…. but I do think GK’s system is only going to be successful with a legitimate Super Star POINT GAURD…. That means only the improved play of Ty Lawson can save GK and no other upgrade at any other position will improve GKs version of these Nuggets. Ty has to play well to overcome GKs inadequacies.

  • Giovanni

    A win is win…
    I’m too happy for criticize Karl and co.
    durant every touch is a foul what a Shame…

  • CJP32

    Great game and an epic performance by CBrew – 15 points in the 4th. He is not the greatest shooter on the team, but he isn’t afraid to step up and take and make the big shots, every basket he scored in the 4th was a dagger. The three 3′s, the FTs, the putback – he just wanted this win bad, and he played exceptional defense.

    I hope Masai keeps him, because there are teams in the league that will overpay Brewer, but I think he likes his role here, he likes Denver and the fans appreciate him. He won’t complain about starting or playing 30+ minutes, he just wants to help the team win. Right now, he is more valuable than Iggy and Chandler.

  • GK4Prez

    I just broke wind, so I know that Kevin Durant is shooting free throws somewhere at this late/early hour.

  • Cephus

    Damm that Westbrook can flop like a hooked trout. Brewer throws a shadow on him and RW will fling his shot up, thrust out his leg, shoulder, whatever to draw the foul, convulse like he just got hit by 440 volts & drop to the floor.

    Nice win. Wild game. That squares things for losing to the Bullets. Karl was actually showing emotion. He only got a C+for beating no.1 team in power rankings. Damm if the 84 Celtics come back via time machine and get waxed then will he rate a B?

    Is Andre Miller the de facto coach though ? This 2 point guard lineup will get whacked & taxed in the playoffs when coaches bother to break it down on film. I’m happy though but I suspect some of the young fellas on Oklahoma partied hearty yesterday after They won Friday in overtime.

    A step slow all day. Come playoffs, they’ll get their power naps in. I don’t wish I was at too many of the games, but this one looked like a 2 hour plus live wire. Lol at Westbrook dissing Rocky. Lawson is pretty peppery himself but RW is the next level above that.

  • Greco21

    Terrible officiating. I mean it was like European Basketball. The ref did everything possible to slow down the Nuggs. Some of these fouls were really pampering OKC superstars.

    Glad to see that the Nuggs contested OKC few days after they dropped a home win against WAS and especially few days after they got schooled by OKC. Their confidence did not drop and they never gave up the game against a team that has great runs during a game.

    I hate small ball. I will hate it to the end of times. It will get you a W every now and then but its crap for the playoffs. Chandler made the small ball even more possible. I hate to say it, but he did…

    I mean ok, Koufos had a foul trouble, McGee some tough momments… but give McGee his minutes. Better loose BIG rather than steal a win small. Give Mozgov a chance. Give A. Randolph a chance.

    One excuse is that GK was afraid the foul prone BIGS would lead OKC to the foul line again and again… but Javale jumps over people. He can avoid body contact. Give him a chance in the last few minutes.

    P.S. Glad to see Kosta finishing well around the rim and quiting some time just watching the game from the weak side. Glad to see some rebounding effort that he lacks lately by chasing 3 point shooters…

    DO NOT CHASE 3 POINT SHOOTERS, ENSURE THAT YOU GET THE DEFENSIVE REBOUND

    • Evan Woodruff

      The miami heat won a championship with small ball. just sayin

      • Greco21

        LBJ guarding/fronting David West was small ball…

        if yes… then you don’t have a small forward that can front/guard taller players

        And contrasting to tall there is strong.

        P.S. Dwayne Wade can block 7 footers at will

  • bigelowsmalls

    Arron Afflalo > Iggy

    • Woobly o Balls

      miss that guy :’(

  • Charliemyboy

    It is amazing what effort and focus team wide can accomplish. We have beat all the teams above us but Miami and could have taken one from them. Glad Westbrick is a child. This will help us. I am bad but wish he would meet Javell`s elbow like Love did. Opportunity to accent positive. Good point on Miami small ball. Team should be on fire. They better be.

  • Peter

    Nice recap! Weird to see so many mediocre grades in a win, but thought they were fair.

  • http://yahoo.com prospector

    Our coaches watch film? They make adjustments?? They hold people accountable??? NO, NO, and NO.. Miller flat out sucks… period…. No defense, turnovers, thinks he’s a power forward the way he plays in the paint (while his guys is spoting up for open threes).. And he is called the “MVP” of this team… REALLY ??
    I am so sick and tired of the B/S.. And it is getting worse by the game…. The only trade we need is for miller to get traded ASAP…. How can JOSHY & MASAI watch this stupidity on a nightly basis? I have lost respect for the entire organization for allowing this to happen…. We almost got beat again because of small ball. What saved us was KK fouling out cause it left our heart and hustle player Faried on the floor.. (Even though he should NEVER, EVER PLAY CENTER) We need Faried and KK on the floor during crunch time… Faried creates reobunds for KK, and Faried finds KK in the post with nice passes… When Faried, KK, and Gallo are on the floor togther their are always great dunks and layups from the bigs… Yet KARL refuses to see this… If we played gallo, faried, and KK 38 minutes a night we would be a far better team… (throw in Mcgee as well)…We should play WITH A BIG LINEUP DURING CRUNCH TIME… Karl never even tries it… I want to see a stretch w/IGGY playing the point w/gallo , and faried, Mcgee, and KK (with chandler as well in his place)… Let iggy and gallo play the scottie pippen and the boys bang for a few.. The take a big out and bring Lawson in the finish the job….. If I never saw Miller play again my life would be complete. YO MASAI the only move I want to see is MIller for draft picks… PERIOD… Let me please see what a real coach could do with this lineup before you blow it up.. KARL will never never ever change… He is a pompous stubborn man that is incapable from learning from his mistakes… This is getting older by the day.. This small ball crap is driving me insane!!!

    • Charliemyboy

      How well does Miami do with a small team? Try the title!

      • googergieger

        We get calls and no calls like Miami you can put the cheerleaders out there for all I care. Until then, a small ball line up that doesn’t spread the floor is powerful stupid.

  • http://yahoo.com prospector

    SOS SOS SOS….. We need the SEAL’s to come in and free Hamilton…. Maybe (in honor of MLK) Harriet can come in here with her underground railroad and send JHAM to a team up North (or LA) that will allow him to reach his potential before it’s too late….

    • miguel

      why are you so negative??? j-ham is not going to take consistent or mins with the nuggets this year because of the depth they have. he is not taking brewers or chandlers mins. plus he needs to improve his game little more because everybody above game is more valuable than him.

  • Ryan

    First Portland, now this game. Nuggets are blowing fourth quarter leads and having to survive unnecessary overtime periods because their coach is a moron. Andre Miller should play 15-20 minutes a game AT MOST at this point in his career and should NEVER be on the court in the last half of the fourth quarter. A quality team is floundering in the bottom half of the top 8 in the west because their stubborn and incompetent coach won’t play his best players when it matters most. As a lifelong Nuggets fan, I will rejoice when Karl finally leaves town (hopefully sooner rather than later)

    • Charliemyboy

      Except for Jordan, Karl has a title. He is number 10 in highest winning percent in the history of the game. Olympic coach. Great tenacity and focus. This year beat every top team but Miami at least once. You might eat crow. We will see.

  • googergieger

    Lakers lost again. As a Denver fan, even I’m starting to feel sad for them. No wait. Those tears are from laughing too hard.


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