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	<title>Comments on: Rapid Reaction: Denver Nuggets 108 &#8211; Toronto Raptors 109</title>
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		<title>By: googergieger</title>
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		<dc:creator>googergieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 02:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bring it on Karl fans. Can&#039;t wait to hear the excuses tonight. Giving up wide open three&#039;s? Not Karl&#039;s fault. He only plays the players that give up wide open three&#039;s big minutes. He only plays those same players that didn&#039;t do anything on offense. He only let a lead balloon to double digits without calling a time out when literally everyone watching with half a brain saw it coming. Can&#039;t wait Karl apologists. Can&#039;t fucking wait.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring it on Karl fans. Can&#8217;t wait to hear the excuses tonight. Giving up wide open three&#8217;s? Not Karl&#8217;s fault. He only plays the players that give up wide open three&#8217;s big minutes. He only plays those same players that didn&#8217;t do anything on offense. He only let a lead balloon to double digits without calling a time out when literally everyone watching with half a brain saw it coming. Can&#8217;t wait Karl apologists. Can&#8217;t fucking wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Charliemyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charliemyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 00:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. Miami plays small ball and doesn&#039;t know what they are doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Miami plays small ball and doesn&#8217;t know what they are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Charliemyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charliemyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 00:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right. I just cannot wait for the Sacramento coach to replace him!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right. I just cannot wait for the Sacramento coach to replace him!</p>
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		<title>By: Charliemyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charliemyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 00:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Defining a star is easy. Melo! We won titles with our star.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Defining a star is easy. Melo! We won titles with our star.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I totally agree with you. Karl is frustrating sometimes but he knows what he&#039;s doing. Anytime the Nuggets lose, everybody picks apart the lineups and gives their own example of what player should have been in or out that would have won the game. It&#039;s not that easy. Karl knows what he&#039;s doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you. Karl is frustrating sometimes but he knows what he&#8217;s doing. Anytime the Nuggets lose, everybody picks apart the lineups and gives their own example of what player should have been in or out that would have won the game. It&#8217;s not that easy. Karl knows what he&#8217;s doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Experience counts, but then again both Redick and Morrow have had horrible postseasons the last 2 years - shooting way below their career averages.

If the only thing they bring is shooting, it would be great to not overpay and not have to commit to a long term deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Experience counts, but then again both Redick and Morrow have had horrible postseasons the last 2 years &#8211; shooting way below their career averages.</p>
<p>If the only thing they bring is shooting, it would be great to not overpay and not have to commit to a long term deal.</p>
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		<title>By: gfacekillah8</title>
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		<dc:creator>gfacekillah8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i love the karl hate man. i bet the people that say fire karl are the same ones that say stone, hamilton and randolph deserve more minutes. some people are insane.

out of the top six teams in both eastern and western conferences the nuggets are the only one without a SINGLE all star. we have had one of the toughest schedules in the league to this point. with all this against us we are still in the hunt for home court advantage in the playoffs. yeah we must have a really terrible coach. the fact is that the reason why always overachieve is because of Karl. he is not perfect and does some crazy stuff but he is one of the best.

those of you who are dying to get rid of him....who would you rather have? you have to look at everything objectively. in the NBA right now there are only 3 or 4 coaches who genuinely might be better than Karl. Pop, Thibodeau, Rivers and Rick Carlisle (maybe). I won&#039;t put guys like Spoelstra or Scott Brooks in there because they have unbelievable talent on their teams. I am sure that Miami and OKC would still make the finals with Karl coaching them. But even if you look at the guys i mentioned, they all have all stars or future hall of famers on their teams (Duncan, Parker, Noah, Deng, Rose, KG, Pierce, Rondo, Dirk). Karl has none of the above on the Nuggets. He has a bunch of quality players but no superstars. That shows the quality of his coaching.

i get frustrated with losses like the one last night and on Sunday as much as anyone. but the fact that we were able to be competitive against a decent Toronto team with 4 of our main players out is amazing. 

Go Nuggets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love the karl hate man. i bet the people that say fire karl are the same ones that say stone, hamilton and randolph deserve more minutes. some people are insane.</p>
<p>out of the top six teams in both eastern and western conferences the nuggets are the only one without a SINGLE all star. we have had one of the toughest schedules in the league to this point. with all this against us we are still in the hunt for home court advantage in the playoffs. yeah we must have a really terrible coach. the fact is that the reason why always overachieve is because of Karl. he is not perfect and does some crazy stuff but he is one of the best.</p>
<p>those of you who are dying to get rid of him&#8230;.who would you rather have? you have to look at everything objectively. in the NBA right now there are only 3 or 4 coaches who genuinely might be better than Karl. Pop, Thibodeau, Rivers and Rick Carlisle (maybe). I won&#8217;t put guys like Spoelstra or Scott Brooks in there because they have unbelievable talent on their teams. I am sure that Miami and OKC would still make the finals with Karl coaching them. But even if you look at the guys i mentioned, they all have all stars or future hall of famers on their teams (Duncan, Parker, Noah, Deng, Rose, KG, Pierce, Rondo, Dirk). Karl has none of the above on the Nuggets. He has a bunch of quality players but no superstars. That shows the quality of his coaching.</p>
<p>i get frustrated with losses like the one last night and on Sunday as much as anyone. but the fact that we were able to be competitive against a decent Toronto team with 4 of our main players out is amazing. </p>
<p>Go Nuggets.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dont get me wrong i like jenkins but we need to bring in someone that has experience. i want to make it out of the 1st rd. we can&#039;t keep &quot;building.&quot; at some point we will have to make a move. I dont want to sell the farm...but it&#039;s obvious a guy like jordan hamilton isn&#039;t getting time anytime soon. Mozgov Hamilton and a pick for Redick? Or even Mozgov for Morrow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dont get me wrong i like jenkins but we need to bring in someone that has experience. i want to make it out of the 1st rd. we can&#8217;t keep &#8220;building.&#8221; at some point we will have to make a move. I dont want to sell the farm&#8230;but it&#8217;s obvious a guy like jordan hamilton isn&#8217;t getting time anytime soon. Mozgov Hamilton and a pick for Redick? Or even Mozgov for Morrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark from Charlotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark from Charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Nuggets played well tonight. But it is sad that this coaching staff cannot develop players on this team. Jham F94 and AR15 looked rusty tonight because of lack of coaching. Can someone tell me why Amiller is on the court during crunch time, this guy can&#039;t play defense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nuggets played well tonight. But it is sad that this coaching staff cannot develop players on this team. Jham F94 and AR15 looked rusty tonight because of lack of coaching. Can someone tell me why Amiller is on the court during crunch time, this guy can&#8217;t play defense.</p>
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		<title>By: dynamo.joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>dynamo.joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All-stars are decided by fans.  Fans are idiots.  Unless someone defines &quot;star&quot; by popularity contests using all-star as the definition is stupid.  Remember when Yao&#039;s best friend TMac was hot and heavy in the all-star voting?

pts   rebs  ast
20.2 15.9 1.6
21.4 15.8 2.0

One of those is Faried, one of those is Z-bo.  If Z-bo is star, then so is Faried.

25.6 12.7 0.9
24.0 12.1 3.6

One of those is JaVale McGee the other is Kevin Garnett.  If Garnett is a star, so is JaVale.

16.6 16.3 1.4
16.6 13.6 1.0

Kosta and Tyson Chandler.

22.3 9.8 4.9
24.7 7.9 3.4

Paul George and Gallo.

18.8 7.5 6.5
21.9 4.6 3.6

Iguodala (actual all-star) and Ray Allen.  Allen is a decrepit old man, so I used the numbers from the last year he made the all-star team.  Also note this is, statistically, the worst year of Iggy&#039;s career and I still expect him to pick things up a notch.

17.6 7.2 14.2
21.3 3.7 9.6
16.7 5.6 10.8

Rondo and Ty and Miller.  The Ty numbers obviously include a quarter season of mind-bogglingly bad Ty and a quarter of &#039;Hey! Ty&#039;s pretty good&#039;.

26.4 3.6 10.1
24.3 5.1 13.8

Jan/Feb Ty and CP3.

I am certainly not saying every Nuggets player should be an all-star, I&#039;m just pointing out that the margins between them and guys who are stars is razor thin and not always in favor of the star.

I&#039;m not as high as others on our remaining players. 

Jham will top out slightly above average for a g/f.  That&#039;s great if he is coming off the bench and merely not bad if he is starting for you.

I&#039;m not willing to estimate what Fourniers ceiling might  be, but if he can&#039;t get a handle on TO&#039;s and PF&#039;s he shouldn&#039;t even be in this league.

I think it&#039;s too late to change Wilson Chandler&#039;s god awful shot selection.

Brewer&#039;s 3pt and free throw shooting are just not good enough for him to be anything more than a 15 minute guy. Unfortunately he gets more time than that now.

Randolph desperately wants to be a SF or stretch 4 but hasn&#039;t the handle or the shooting to make it work.

Mozgov is basically like Brewer.  He could/should be playing 10-15 minutes on a good team.

The only deep bench player I think has the talent to be an all-star is Julyan Stone.  But he will be a pass first, defending PG not a scorer.  So, unless he moves to a big market it&#039;s doubtful he will ever get all-star consideration.

And that&#039;s the State of the Nuggets, talent-wise, as I see it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All-stars are decided by fans.  Fans are idiots.  Unless someone defines &#8220;star&#8221; by popularity contests using all-star as the definition is stupid.  Remember when Yao&#8217;s best friend TMac was hot and heavy in the all-star voting?</p>
<p>pts   rebs  ast<br />
20.2 15.9 1.6<br />
21.4 15.8 2.0</p>
<p>One of those is Faried, one of those is Z-bo.  If Z-bo is star, then so is Faried.</p>
<p>25.6 12.7 0.9<br />
24.0 12.1 3.6</p>
<p>One of those is JaVale McGee the other is Kevin Garnett.  If Garnett is a star, so is JaVale.</p>
<p>16.6 16.3 1.4<br />
16.6 13.6 1.0</p>
<p>Kosta and Tyson Chandler.</p>
<p>22.3 9.8 4.9<br />
24.7 7.9 3.4</p>
<p>Paul George and Gallo.</p>
<p>18.8 7.5 6.5<br />
21.9 4.6 3.6</p>
<p>Iguodala (actual all-star) and Ray Allen.  Allen is a decrepit old man, so I used the numbers from the last year he made the all-star team.  Also note this is, statistically, the worst year of Iggy&#8217;s career and I still expect him to pick things up a notch.</p>
<p>17.6 7.2 14.2<br />
21.3 3.7 9.6<br />
16.7 5.6 10.8</p>
<p>Rondo and Ty and Miller.  The Ty numbers obviously include a quarter season of mind-bogglingly bad Ty and a quarter of &#8216;Hey! Ty&#8217;s pretty good&#8217;.</p>
<p>26.4 3.6 10.1<br />
24.3 5.1 13.8</p>
<p>Jan/Feb Ty and CP3.</p>
<p>I am certainly not saying every Nuggets player should be an all-star, I&#8217;m just pointing out that the margins between them and guys who are stars is razor thin and not always in favor of the star.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not as high as others on our remaining players. </p>
<p>Jham will top out slightly above average for a g/f.  That&#8217;s great if he is coming off the bench and merely not bad if he is starting for you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not willing to estimate what Fourniers ceiling might  be, but if he can&#8217;t get a handle on TO&#8217;s and PF&#8217;s he shouldn&#8217;t even be in this league.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s too late to change Wilson Chandler&#8217;s god awful shot selection.</p>
<p>Brewer&#8217;s 3pt and free throw shooting are just not good enough for him to be anything more than a 15 minute guy. Unfortunately he gets more time than that now.</p>
<p>Randolph desperately wants to be a SF or stretch 4 but hasn&#8217;t the handle or the shooting to make it work.</p>
<p>Mozgov is basically like Brewer.  He could/should be playing 10-15 minutes on a good team.</p>
<p>The only deep bench player I think has the talent to be an all-star is Julyan Stone.  But he will be a pass first, defending PG not a scorer.  So, unless he moves to a big market it&#8217;s doubtful he will ever get all-star consideration.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the State of the Nuggets, talent-wise, as I see it.</p>
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