Rapid Reaction: Denver Nuggets 119 Los Angeles Lakers 108

Los Angeles Lakers 108 Final
Recap | Box Score
119 Denver Nuggets
Kenneth Faried, SF 32 MIN | 6-10 FG | 0-0 FT | 10 REB | 0 AST | 3 STL | 2 BLK | 1 TO | 12 PTS | -6

Faried obliterated the Laker bigs on the boards. Earl Clark and Metta World Peace played a combined 54 minutes while grabbing only one defensive rebound. His defensive awareness on the perimeter and in pick and rolls needs a lot of work, but rebounding is what Kenneth does best and when he plays with this kind of energy he can’t be stopped.

Kosta Koufos, C 14 MIN | 3-4 FG | 2-4 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 8 PTS | +3

He was bothered by foul trouble and couldn’t really handle Howard’s sheer girth, but Koufos bottled him up about as well as you can in the first half. Koufos is not bruiser and is a great example of how big men can be effective on defense without having to be the most physical guy around. Koufos was constantly moving his feet and fouled when he needed to — he’s been a near-perfect role player which is exactly what the Nuggets have asked him to do.

Ty Lawson, PG 41 MIN | 8-19 FG | 5-7 FT | 4 REB | 8 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 4 TO | 22 PTS | +11

Seven straight games of 20+ point performances speaks for itself. Lawson is playing at a very high level right now which will make this critique difficult for some fans to take. Lawson was tentative and didn’t get to the paint outside of transition. He was also very hesitant to take open shots and didn’t create at the same outstanding level we’ve grown accustomed to. Solid game, but Lawson is capable of much more and should play better against the likes of Nash and Blake.

Wilson Chandler, SG 25 MIN | 10-18 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 23 PTS | +6

Chandler was extremely solid in his first start of the season, shining in a brand new role Nuggets fans haven’t seen him in much since Chandler joined the team. He was asked to space the floor and create on the perimeter a little bit, both of which he did admirably despite having played almost the whole season from a big spot off the bench. Chandler can regularly produce these kinds of numbers in a starting role, which is a fantastic luxury to have behind Gallo.

Andre Iguodala, SG 37 MIN | 6-9 FG | 2-5 FT | 4 REB | 12 AST | 1 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 14 PTS | +6

Iguodala dominated the game, but not like you would expect. He took only 9 shots, going a perfect 5/5 in the paint and 1/4 on jumpers. He also tallied an outstanding 12 assists to just two turnovers filling in for Gallo as a secondary creator. But Iguodala’s stifling defense seemed to thwart every substantial Lakers push and made even modest leads appear insurmountable for the visiting Lakers. He is a special defensive talent.

Anthony Randolph, PF 6 MIN | 3-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 6 PTS | +10

Really solid minutes. Randolph ran the court hard and pretty much stayed out of the way on offense. The less he touches the ball and the more he runs the better. Randolph is very active and amazingly quick up the floor for a 7-footer. His energy played a big part, along with Brewer, in terms of getting the pace going.

Jordan Hamilton, SF 4 MIN | 0-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | +3

Another very solid performance all things considered. He took one questionable heave from three but otherwise looked good in the Nuggets up-and-down offense. Four minutes isn’t enough to tell too much but it’s safe to say Hamilton is more than capable of contributing when the Nuggets need him to fill in.

Corey Brewer, SF 26 MIN | 6-15 FG | 3-5 FT | 2 REB | 3 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 16 PTS | +17

Brew doesn’t do anything halfway. When he misses, he shoots BRICKS. Two of them were extremely ugly airballs from three, yet Brewer ended up being perhaps the Nuggets’ most valuable offensive contributor on the night. I would love to give Brew a better grade, but 15 shots is kind of a lot for Brewer to take unless he makes more of them.

Timofey Mozgov, C 4 MIN | 1-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | -6


JaVale McGee, C 23 MIN | 3-4 FG | 1-2 FT | 7 REB | 0 AST | 2 STL | 4 BLK | 1 TO | 7 PTS | +8

The numbers don’t pop out at you but his defense was game-changing. He continues to produce with monster efficiency on the offensive end while steadily improving his poise and consistency on defense. McGee has earned more minutes and it’s only a matter of time till he starts seeing them. Despite not playing a lot of minutes his production has been eerily consistent this season. Can he continue to do it in bigger role? That’s the million dollar question.

Andre Miller, PG 28 MIN | 3-4 FG | 3-4 FT | 3 REB | 5 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 9 PTS | +3

Andre’s attitude and demeanor on the floor are markedly improved since the All-Star break. He is a problem match up for LA and exploited it from the opening tip. The Lakers had to adjust, putting Kobe on him for a while and later Metta World Peace in the second half. The Nuggets don’t win this game without Andre and don’t take LA to seven games last year without him either. It’s in these kind of matchups Andre really proves his worth. I would just love to see some consistency.

George Karl

The Nuggets did exactly what they needed to do: dictate the pace and control the boards. Even without Gallo, the Nuggets came out prepared to play to their strengths and execute an offense that would lull the Lakers into a track meet. They did a particularly good job containing penetration and fouling on every layup opportunity. The Lakers just had to work too hard for everything they got and didn’t have the defensive chops to keep up. The Nuggets also played with a swagger and an expectation to win, something that I just haven’t seen much of in big games this season.

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  • googergieger

    That was the worst officiated game I’ve ever seen. I’m proud of every Denver guy tonight. Glad they decided to rest Gallo and Chandler stepped up big. He’s looking better and hopefully he continues to get better the healthier and more in shape he gets.

    McGee got a lot of horrible calls thrown his way tonight but this is yet another game he has looked great! I won’t bad mouth any player tonight or even Karl. Too happy with the win and too angry at the refs to do that. Hope this wins sparks another win streak for us! Need to fight for every win here on out to get that fourth seed!

    • http://twitter.com/xantoniooo808x D3Ntilthe3ND

      definitely enough to shut me up til wednesday haha

    • theo

      You’re an abusive jerk that dominates the site, but still, people like me make room for an asshole like you. How does it feel to have harsh comments like ‘troll’ thrown around, dimwit?

      If you actually had things to say that were more interesting or intelligent than most people here, it would make sense for you to take up 50%. But you aren’t.

      Stop being an asshole.

      • googergieger

        Uh huh. That’s whatever you were talking about for you.

        • theo

          Back off jerk. You’ve been dogging me since I first came onto the site with the troll comments. Enough. Back up your comments–so you can save your little niche here–without being an asshole. Making my takes without insulting you or others.

          Wow, nice welcome to the site.

          No, I’m not a delicate flower, far from it. I’d like to make my comments without being dogged by you. I don’t dog your comments or call you a troll. Enough.

          If you’re smart enough to respond to my stuff, do it. If not, cut out the insulting crap.

          • googergieger

            What? Didn’t reply to your comment on this one did I? In fact I let plenty of your things go. For the most part just reply to replies. For the most part anyways. But yeah Mr. Delayed reaction man, might want to start adding context to your replies. Might save you from coming off so umm, schizophrenic?

          • mike

            wow you are taking googer way to seriously. He’s a whiner and a pessimist. He likes to complain and needs an enemy to feel he is “defeating.” He’s antagonistic. Oh well. Just tell him he is wrong when he is wrong (which is often). There is a difference between attacking and zinging someone. theo you were attacking.

      • Jeff

        Woah, where did that come from?

      • nugswin

        Really? Everything you can find on the internet and internet comment boards and googergeiger is the one who’s an asshole? You’re quite the delicate flower, I guess.

      • Ckwizard

        This board is better with Googergieger! I don’t always agree with his opinions and sometimes he can be a little defensive and whinny but come on what Nugget fan that has a knowledge of the game which Googergieger does and has to have had to endure GK bipolar 8 ball lineups and strategies isn’t. Things are good in Nugget land right now I repeat “RIGHT NOW” but some people have been disappointed by GK’s obviously insane decision making when the season is on the line that they can no longer see a positive outcome with him as the coach. I am a generally optimistic person and not as emotionally invested in my sports teams as I once was so I can be a fan with or with out George Karl but…. As the team performs better and my hope and passion for Nuggets basketball becomes greater, If GK is the reason determined to have once again killed hat hope and passion for my favorite team, I will be more like Googergieger who is right most of the time…. The Nuggets prior to this year could be better with a Different Head Coach, and if this year they bust and flounder out of the playoffs then he Nuggets are definitely better with a different head coach.

        My point is this GK is a different coach who shows a different energy, focus , passion and lineup strategy when playing a team like the Lakers than the disinterested, lethargic , small ball, veteran riding coach when playing the Wizards…. If GK brings a different effort to different opponents OF COURSE HIS TEAM WILL. GK is responsible for his teams poor play against inferior opponents and that coupled with Googergieger’s passion, GK is also the cause of Googergieger’s sometimes bad attitude.


      • Is this me?

        I’m not exactly sure what set Theo off, but googergeiger does often think he’s the final arbiter of who’s right and who’s wrong on this board.

  • thawk

    Oh my gosh I can’t believe they won! Everything the Nuggets did was wrong. I don’t care that they are a professional basketball team. I am a fan in sweatpants on my couch, and they played a terrible game. It’s a good think the Lakers didn’t bring their A game tonight.

    • Mark

      I don’t know what you’re talking about, but I can say one thing… Faried dunking on Dwight Howard’s head at the end was definitely right.

  • LBJ

    Nice win by the nugs! Who was the jerk off ref that was trying to propel the fakers to victory. He shouldn’t be calling middle school game, let alone the NBA!

    • Kane

      Joey Crawford?

      • Fraser

        Nope it was David Gunthrie who made most of the woeful calls

      • http://twitter.com/xantoniooo808x D3Ntilthe3ND

        That’s always a good guess.

  • Gray

    Proud of the nuggets, it was 8 Vs 5 out there and they managed to buckle down and keep their lead. Good win

  • Z

    Chandler is 3 not a 4 get him mins at the 3 he will produce. feel free to bash him tonight too

    • heykyleinsf

      Not going to happen from me, he is starting to flash some signs of .. dare I say it? Consistency.

    • dynamo.joe

      0-4 from mid-range.

      Wilson Chandler
      Needs to improve: shot selection.

  • Ernie

    I could watch Dwight Howard shoot free throws all night. 3 for 14 and it wasn’t that close. Why wasn’t Mosgov fouling him more? When he’s that off you have to use your extra bigs just for fouls.

    Pretty good win without Gallo, even though LA was off a back to back.

  • http://twitter.com/xantoniooo808x D3Ntilthe3ND

    George coached 44 minutes of perfect basketball… Mozzy played 4 minutes.

    love Love LOVE beating the lakers. never gets old.

    loved how salty dwight was getting all game lmao.

    good win, just sad that it took our best player being hurt for george to wake up.

    • heykyleinsf

      LOL!! I was worried to!

  • CoryW

    So the refs were bad?

    • http://twitter.com/xantoniooo808x D3Ntilthe3ND

      pretty bad, but honestly both ways. favored the lakers a little, but it’s hard for the refs to influence a game when one team is 94 feet ahead of the other.

      • LBJ

        Both ways??? Are you kidding? Howard could throw Faried to the ground – and Manimal gets the foul! Or McGee just blocks him out and its a foul. Or Metta ahole grabs McGee’s arm on the rebound – no whistle. And a couple of the goal tending calls on McGee were a joke! Guthrie should have been wearing a laker jersey.

      • googergieger

        Dude we had 78 points in the paint and they still had more free throw attempts. That is unfathomable.

        • LBJ

          Howard ended the game with 2 fouls – he probably committed about 10.

        • theo

          No doubt, points in the paint vs. free throw attempts is the key stat. Beyond unfathomable. I don’t normally get into bashing refs because it does usually balance out. But tonight was hard to watch. Don’t think in any way he was hostile to the Nugs, just incompetent in a way that merits a suspension or at least an internal warning. Nugs have got to send the video and an official complaint to the league office.

          • danny

            I don’t think he was hostile to the nuggets in particular, but there are numerous firsthand accounts of the league’s official/unofficial favoritism to the big market teams and to particular players. I would guess that the NBA is desperately rooting for the Lakers to scrape their way into the playoffs because it would be a huge story. Huge stories for bigtime teams = money money cash money. I’m sure you’ll see a lot of questionable calls going the Laker’s way from here on out.

    • ryanvdonk

      they gave the lakers about 10 phantom calls that either led to free throws or extra possesions, and were usually timed to be momentum killers for the nuggets. on top of that there were some no calls and a couple goal tends that should have been blocks.

      that being said, javale was HUGE this game, dwight couldn’t do much against him (except the refs bailing him out). ty seems to have finally figured out that that there is no one in the league who can really stay with him 1on1, there’s absolutely no reason he can’t average 18 and 8 for the season. he also has figured up a midrange pull up coming off screens, a shot that will almost always be open as everyone fears him getting in the paint. was nice to see AR and JHAM get those few minutes in the first half, i though both played well and especially randolph should have gotten another run in the second half. k2 gets manhandled when playing strong bigs, so expect to see all 3 centers any night we play teams with one.

      • dynamo.joe

        +1 on Randolph comment.

        If there was one thing I would ding Karl on, it would have been, not rewarding AR for playing within himself.

        • Nugznazty

          yeah AR was awesome in there. that steal on the inbounds had me goin nuts

  • Fraser

    I swear to god Andre Miller thinks that he’s Reggie Miller as soon as it ticks in 5 minutes in a close game- why does he start shooting threes!! :(

    Rather have Timo shooting threes than Andre Miller, and that’s not a joke! Apart from that terrible decision the boys did everything they could to win the game. Lucky for the lakers the refs kept them in it

    • heykyleinsf

      Miller did score a clutch basket though to cool the Lakers off. Give credit as well once in a while.

    • dynamo.joe

      Technically JaVale is our best 3pt shooter, currently sitting at 100%.

  • heykyleinsf

    OK Charlie.. this time I will save you guys the trouble.. and be sincere about it.

    IGGY = A+

    That no look dish was absolutely SICK!!!!

  • theo

    Upsides: Might be the loss that takes the Lakers out of the playoffs. Karma wheel turning? Got killed from 3 again and couldn’t make a free throw and still won easily. 3-1 so far since the break–on the right track for the 4th seed. Ill Will played even better than the missing Long Paesan. Nice to have depth. Overcame ridiculous officiating, particularly in the first half. Nugs should file a complaint to the league about David Guthrie–the guy was clearly incompetent.

    Downsides: Little defense yet again in a pattern since just before the all star break. Got killed again from 3. Couldn’t make a free throw.

    I’m starting to pull my hair out over the free throw thing. LA has the excuse of Howard, but we’re poor across the roster. Not about the coach, not about the D, 15 feet away, alone, just make the f__cking shot! The most basic test of shooting ability. We just don’t have guys that can shoot. We’re last–dead last–in the league in free throw shooting. Unbelievable in an attack the rim system that depends on lots of free throws and requires a high free throw shooting %.

    Now to the scene of maybe the worst perimeter shooting performance in NBA history. Portland a couple of months ago. We set an all time NBA record for 3 point shooting futility and didn’t make a shot outside the paint until the last 30 seconds.

    Maybe we can make a shot or two from beyond 3 feet this time and win easily like we should have last time.

  • Paul

    Does anyone have a link to the Iggy no look pass and the Faried dunk at the end of the game?

    • googergieger

      It’s up on youtube.

  • Tom

    The Nuggets went 32-of-45 (71.1 percent) inside five feet of the basket Monday against the Lakers. The 71.1 field goal percentage on those shots was the third-highest this season (min. 40 attempts). It’s the eighth time this season the Nuggets have made at least 30 field goals inside five feet of the basket. No other team has done it more than once. The 32 makes are tied for the second-most in a game this season in the NBA. The Nuggets made 33 shots inside five feet against the Blazers on December 20th. Of the 32 makes, 14 were dunks. The 14 dunks were one short of the NBA season high, done by the Nuggets (12/16 at Kings) and Clippers (12/21 vs Kings).

    Too bad this sort of offense won’t work in the playoffs.

  • Cephus

    As D3 said it NEVER gets old beating the Lakers. I expected no less however since L.A. had to claw to get past Dallas yesterday. They’re too veteran & shallow a team to get away with consecutive games like that. I didn’t understand the big push to get Wilson Chandler signed for multi-year deal last year. That mystery beginning to clear up now.

  • heykyleinsf

    CHARLIE YOU ARE BEYOND RIDICULOUS GIVING LAWSON B- AND MCGEE A+. I believe from now on.. I will sit out your rotations as a grader.

    • heykyleinsf

      but I agree with Iggy.. and I also think it’s time to START McGEE.

    • Ackdog

      B- is absolutely ridiculous. You have one of the best shot blockers in NBA history guarding the rim ad you say TY was tentative. How about smart???? He i one of the smallest guys in the NBA. By the way he still scores 20 and you give him a B-????? +11 41 mins He gets an A in my book. Horrible grade!

      Good win but these boys need to figure out how to win on the road.

      • magster

        Ty actually had a very poor shooting night. If the grades are relative to what we are used to seeing from each player, then Charlie is right on. Javale probably had his best game of the season, and Ty was shooting 3s as well as Brewer last night.

        If the grades are in the context of who did what to win the game, then Ty gets a better grade.

        I always take them to mean the former though. A player who plays as well as he is capable of gets the “A”.

    • Trip

      Lawson was cold from the outside, missing many shots that he usually hits. 1 for 6 on 3 pointers, and had multiple shots blocked at the rim. Yes Howard is a good shot blocker but Ty Lawson is usually much craftier than that. He played a really solid game but I agree it was not an “A” performance.

      That is probably because of his play lately I am holding him to higher standards right now. Also I think Charlie did a good job not letting his emotion come into play when grading this game. It would have been easy to get overly excited because of beating the lakers like that and winning the season series, that he could have given everybody too high of grades.

      The one that i do not agree with was 2K, I still think his play is being constantly overrated. He played more efficiently than normal and fouled Dwight a couple times sending him to the line where he is awful, but he did it too often and got himself on the bench most of the game. He took one running hook shot at the free throw line that luckily went in, but his shot selection is pretty bad at times

      • googergieger

        To be fair Dwight was allowed to camp out in the paint all night long. On offense and defense. Everyone kept shouting out three seconds, and Dwight would still be in there. Didn’t even see an effort from Dwight to get out of the paint all game.

  • CJP32

    Great game by the Nuggets. WC and CBrew combined for 39 points in place of Gallo – tremendous effort. Iggy was the ultimate defender and playmaker. Ty was aggressive and McGee’s D on Howard was awesome.

    Cannot complain about anything here, it was a great win.

  • GK4Prez

    I can’t say a bad thing about any player or the coach tonight, that was a good team win.

  • http://Denverstiffs.com slader

    I feel sooooo sorry for those poor Lakers. I mean they spent all that money, got all those stars, refs love them and they still lose. It’s just not fair 😉

  • Giovanni


    A win vs Lakers is ever a great day…

    But Mcgee how must play well for have minutes?

  • http://yahoo.com prospector

    Karl didn’t make his “brilliant moves” by choice it was due to Gallo’s injury.. I just posted here my biggest problem with Chandler was how Karl is using him.. I stated he should be taking IGGY & GALLO minutes… Last night he starts for GALLO and guess what?? He plays well… SHOCKER….You play a guy at his natural position and he plays well.. That’s 3 good games in a row for Chandler and in 2 of the three he was subbing in for GALLO….. This is a perfect illustration on why KARL SUCKS as a coach.. He should have been playing this way with Chandler ALL YEAR.. Also KARL, IGGY is a Scottie PIPPEN… He had double digit assists 2 games in a row… SO YOU KNOW WHAT?? DITCH THE 2 POINT guard lineups please.. There is no need for Miller and TY to ever be on the floor together.. DO YOU UNDERSTAND!!
    JHAM play good defense and helped with spacing while in the game… RANDOLPH showed his stuff…

    So let’s review… CHANDLER should only sub in for GALLO/IGGY (less brewer minutes is good)….. RANDOLPH and JHAM need more Minutes.. IGGY needs to be allowed to be our scottie Pippen… He can’t do that when MILLER & TY are on the court at the same time.

    SO giving a coach an A grade for making moves only due to injury is not impressive to me… Give him an A when he makes these moves when everyone is healthy….
    That is the true test..

    Reality check:
    Karl will be KARL.. Chandler will continue to get FARIED/KK/MCGEE minutes once GALLO is 100%. Iggy will not be allowed to be our Scottie Pippen… And Randolph and JHAM will be banished again to SIBERIA…
    A Karl doesn’t change his stripes… And a KARL still always loses on the road as well…….

    • Natey

      Thats brutal after a great win… Some of its true, but I do believe there is a time to play Miller in the 4th. Not everytime though. Just remember game 5 last year @LA. We lose that game and series if it wasnt for Dre’s amazing 4th quarter play.

      • nugswin

        Dre should only get Ty’s backup minutes. Nothing more. Maybe less. And Ty should be playing 38+ a game depending on circumstances.

    • Dubz

      The dilema with Chandler is definitely a tough one to deal with. He’s really a 3, but if he’s to play another position it’s the 4, not the 2. Unless he’s guarding a bigger guy like Joe Johnson or Demar DeRozan or even an Iggy if he were still on the sixers, he’s not suited to guard 2’s. In a perfect world, Gallo could play the 4 when Chandler gets subbed in for he’s 6’10. However, Wilson is a better post defender, rebounder, and shot blocker. Chandler isn’t an ideal 4 to say the least, but he’s done a very good job at it since his return from injury IMO. I like Randolph but I’d hate to see him take on the “1st power forward off the bench” role. He’s just not ready to contribute on a nightly basis. Thererfor, Chandler’s our stretch 4 and pretty good one.

      • ryanvdonk

        the reason AR isn’t ready seems to be mostly his confidence, his entire time in the league has been getting yanked for weeks after small mistakes, if we were to let him play through these he could turn into a solid rotation player shortly. the advantage is even with some tentative play, he always seems to give his 100% and is very active, running the court, rebounding and even some shot blocking. getting him in for a couple runs a game (maybe around 8-14 minutes) would do wonders for our depth and keep another big on the floor. on the plus he slowly seems to be moving that way, probably due to his hard work, he’s become the first non rotation guy karl brings in.

        also, nice to see jham in over fournier for once, he’s a better shooter, rebounder and defender.

  • ny nugs fan

    always nice to beat the lakers… BUT

    the nugs went 59.3% (16 – 27) from the line

    and the nugs easily are a 72-75% ft shooting team on a BAD night

    definitely definitely can’t afford to get comfortable shooting like this from the line

  • http://yahoo.com prospector

    Also Howards bricks at the line helped our cause….

    A Miller fans:
    Let’s do addition.. For every bucket he scores how many does he give up on his horrible defense.. So he gives up 5 horrible three’s, and then scores a late bucket to make the game close…. That does not add up.. 10 points of his lame offense when he accounts for like 20 plus due to his lack of defense means bench time in the fourth…. We don’t need him in the 4th quarter.. Also if we used more effective lineups, we wouldn’t be in alot of those 4 qtr close games… Next time you DVR a game, rewind and watch MILLER exclusively… Watch his defense, watch his positioning.. Watch how guys have to rotate over to his guy due to him being in the paint… It is pathetic… THE TAPE DON’T LIE….

    • Joshua

      My buddy and I did this during the Washington game. There might be a reason for it that I’m not aware of, but Miller’s defense in the 4Q consisted of wandering aimlessly between his man (posted up at 3P line) and the key. This worked out well 1 time when he was able to get a steal. The remainder of the quarter his man was left virtually unguarded and resulted in several wide open 3-pointers. He did generate some offense at the other end but didn’t pose any defensive threat whatsoever. In close games, more often than not, its defensive stops that are the difference maker. I want to appreciate the offensive boost but he is too much of a liability on D at the end of games IMO.

      • http://yahoo.com prospector

        Miller’s defense is what drives me crazy.. You’re right, in a close game in the 4th there is no reason for him to be in the game… NONE… I want the ball in TY’s hands, with GALLO and IGGY right behind him… The last 2 games we have seen IGGY’s playmaking ability… Like 20 assists over 2 games.. And he plays DEFENSE…. So why is MILLER needed in the 4th??? Answer me that KARL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Native Nugget

    A friend of mine scored me an extra ticket last night. Box seats and an L.A. beat down!! Sweeet.

    Aside from the refs wearing L.A. jerseys and the little falter down the stretch where the lead dropped to 9, it was a good game to watch. Seems like the Lakers were out of synch from the tip and tired. Even when they were playing catch-up ball and needed to get off shots early in the shot clock to give themselves a chance, they walked the ball up with no urgency. Old team on a back to back night with no will to win. Few more games like that and they sit out of the playoffs.

    Ditto the concerns about free throws and outside shooting. We can’t compete in the playoffs with two major achilles heals.

  • bosc0

    5 steals & 6 blocks (plus 2+ called as GT) combined for Kenneth and JaVale, many leading to fast breaks. Nuggets win!

  • http://yahoo.com prospector


  • Native Nugget

    I get that GK is past redemption for you Prospector. While I have my frustrations with him I’m still happy to have him. I was a little young when Larry Brown was coaching for us and he’s the only coach with a better winning percentage than GK in Nuggets history. I liked Doug Moe a lot, but I don’t feel he was as good a coach as Karl (his record proves this). After MO was pushed out in 1990 we suffered 15 years of flat out bad coaching. For all of Karl’s faults he is not a bad coach – just a coach with some clear flaws. I blame management for leaving Miller on the roster knowing GKs man-crush on him, and I wish they would get in his grill about small ball lineups, especially in the playoffs. While I would like to see us experiment with a new coach to get us to the next level, I’m cautious to kick him to the curb and go into another 15 year cycle of misery. He is what he is – a really good regular season coach and a subpar playoff coach.

    • Fed up Nug

      I feel like you are giving Karl way too much credit here. The number one thing that turned this franchise around was getting competent ownership. The number two thing was finally getting a draft right with Melo. Hiring Karl had little to do with the success we’ve had over the last decade. You could say he’s lead the team to the playoffs every season but every one of those teams was supposed to make the playoffs. Any average coach can get a talented roster to a lower seed and a first round exit. Firing Karl won’t lead to some 15 year cloud of darkness like you are suggesting. As long as our front office is willing to assemble good rosters we will be competitive.

      Fun look at the past – In 96 we traded our 10th pick to Indiana for Mark Jackson and Ricky Pierce when we could have drafted either Nash or Kobe, 97 we passed on T-Mac for Tony Battie, 98 we passed on Vinsanity/Dirk/Pierce for Raef Lafrentz, and in 99 we passed on AK47 for James Posey.

      Imagine what could have been, or don’t, its almost too depressing to think about. Thank god Detroit picked Darko or we probably would have blown 03 too lol.

      • Native Nugget

        It’s a fair point that Karl inherited talent and I agree that with the current management and talent, most coaches would thrive to some degree. I do think we have the best management we’ve had in a while and it’s likely I don’t factor that in enough.

        Yet I still feel there are things Karl does well that he often doesn’t get credit for on this blog. He brings a stability to the franchise, develops players well with his coaching staff, has the Nuggets playing selfless ball, improving on defense, running hard, penetrating the lane… little of which gets acknowledged. Just listen to Javale talk about the difference between his development with the Nuggs vs. the Wizards and it’s clear Karl can do some things right. If I never looked at the records or other sources of info, I’d assume from reading these blogs that the Nuggs were in last place in a bad conference.