Deal or no deal: Andre Iguodala rumors

As day two of free agency comes to a close, the rumors about free agent Andre Iguodala continue to fly.

Early in the day, @NuggetsTrades and others tweeted “The #Nuggets have offered Andre Iguodala a 5 year 63 million dollar contract”.

Later, @WojYahooNBA gave us this series of tweets over the course of about three hours:

“Sacramento is offering free agent Andre Iguodala a four year, approximately $56 million contract, league sources tell Y! Sports.”

“As USA Today reported, source tells Y! that Sacramento has withdrawn its four-year, $56 million offer from Denver free agent Andre Iguodala.”

“Denver’s shown no inclination to match $14M per offer, and Iguodala wasn’t ready to tell the Kings ‘Yes,” sources tell Y! So, Kings bailed.”

“It is still very possible Iguodala and Nuggets can reach agreement on deal, sources tell Y! For now, Iguodala may keep scouring the market.”

Stay tuned.

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  • Mark Robert Jones

    And now they are reporting that it was actually 4 yrs $52 million. Not much more than Denvers offer at all…http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2013/07/03/andre-iguodala-sacramento-kings-contract-offer-nba-free-agency/2485297/

  • Scott

    In my eyes, as well as I believe Iggy’s, it is best to sign with us for 3 reasons:

    1. Stability- the nuggets can offer him 5 years opposed to 4 from other teams. This is a great advantage for us considering this is Iggys last “big” payday before he declines. He would rather take 5 years at the $12 mill range than 4 and risk not having much value after it expires.

    2.Winning- we obviously have a better team than SAC or DET, and he is somewhat used to this system that gave him 57 wins (albeit no postseason success) and is not a rebuilding project unlike other teams. He has also shown lots of loyalty to his teammates and the city as well as liking the hiring of Brian Shaw.

    3.Legacy/PR- I believe the more teams a player plays for, the worse the toll is on their legacy and how they are remembered. All the greats played for 1-2 teams and were loyal to them. While no one would frown upon Iggy leaving Denver from the outside looking in, 3 different teams in 3 years is not really good for PR and merchandising (ie. jerseys) in a league where business is everything. The whole fact that he won a gold medal would be clouded by the fact that he wasn’t truly representing a team that he can look back on and say “Oh yeah, when I think of Iguodala, I think of The Sixers and Nuggets.” It just doesn’t look good when a player switches teams frequently in my opinion.

    • TomRMC

      yeah, that fifth year is really important. He’ll be 34 years old that year. There aren’t a lot of 34+ year old NBA players signing contracts for $12 million, or even $6 million. Steve Nash signed a pretty big deal in his late 30s, but the rest of the NBA players who make that much money at that age (Duncan, Garnett, Pierce, Kobe, Dirk) are at the end of contracts they signed when they were in their late 20s.

      There’s also state taxes to take into account. Even if the Kings offer a little more per year, California takes a bigger cut than Colorado.

  • Michael

    When I heard the Kings were after Iggy I posted this on a basketball forum at work:

    Hearing that the Kings have strong interest in Iguodala from Denver and also have to make a decision on Tyreke Evans (after being offered a contract with the Pelicans) I’m thinking the teams may work out a sign and trade swap of the two with the Kings possibly throwing in a little extra (possibly Toney Douglas). The Kings get a great wing defender and solid team guy to help with the culture of the
    team and the Nuggets get a better scorer but lose the perimeter D provided by
    Iggy.

    As a Denver fan I’m hoping to keep Iggy (at the right price, somewhere around the 5 year 55 mil range, no higher) and would not be real happy with the above trade but getting something back for Iggy rather than see him walk for nothing would be
    preferable.

    Starting lineups would look something like:

    Kings

    PG Thomas
    SG McLemore
    SF Iguodala
    PF Thompson
    C Cousins

    Nuggets

    PG Lawson
    SG Fournier (until Gallo returns, then Evans takes this spot)
    SF Evans (Gallo takes this spot with Chandler providing scoring off the
    bench)
    PF Faried
    C McGee

    Now that the offer has suddenly been pulled I’m thinking maybe the Nuggets have reached out to the Kings to see if they can work something out? They may come out of it cheaper and younger with the hopes that Brian Shaw can work some of the magic on Evans that he did with Paul George. However with so many young prospects there is only so much Shaw to go around and he is yet to announce his staff which needs to be done within about a week as the assistants normally run the summer league.

    • TomRMC

      The Kings can’t trade Evans once he signs an offer sheet with another team. If they match, he can’t be traded for about half of a season; I forget exactly how long. The only way to work a trade is if Denver convinces Evans not to sign the offer sheet he already verbally agreed to with the Pelicans.

      • Michael

        Nothing can be signed until the 10th, or so I thought. Evans only has a verbal agreement at the moment. I’d rather keep Iggy but I think they are paying a little too much. They need to find a way of moving A. Miller soon, I want him gone before camp so the team can move on.

  • Pickles1731

    Well I was hoping that we could get Iggy for less than 12.5 a year. But the man could be the centerpiece of a Brian Shaw defensive minded team if we had him for the next 5 years. You can have bad nights offensively but not defensively, because defense is all about hard work and commitment (two things you don’t question with Iggy.) I think we regret this deal a little bit in years 4 and 5, but at worst Iggy would become an overpaid Tony Allen type of defensive specialist. Rather have that than a Rashard Lewis kind of guy who dropped off the map when he lost his offense.

    Also, without Iggy, the SG options left are not that good. Redick is gone, Ellis is a ball hog with no defensive commitment at all, Tony Allen is gone, and Kevin Martin is gone too. I don’t want to lose a guy like Iggy and have to overpay someone like the Pelicans are doing with Tyreke Evans just because the cap room is available. Hopefully we can resign him and quick and just put our focus back on developing our young guys and working on team defense.

  • heykyleinsf

    I want him back..
    but not so desperately.
    We’re talking about a five year deal
    we’re talking an All-star contract,
    for a guy creeping up on 30..
    that has been an all-star
    all of ONE TIME.

    I’ve long been vocal about not being
    all in on the Iggy fan club.
    He’s a great player.. but not a
    complete player by any means.
    part of me hopes some other team
    gets ridiculous so we don’t.

    I’ll be happy if he commits to us..
    but I will also be expecting big
    improvements on last year.. which
    saw him take half the season to arrive.

    • Charliemyboy

      Correction: he’s a complete player but not a great player by any means.

      • heykyleinsf

        I can give more credit once he does something about the FTs and stops taking three quarters to score his first point.

  • Charliemyboy

    Where are our decision makers and visionaries? What is our management doing, waiting to let everyone else determine futures and get the remaining pickings? Masai wasn’t that way. Come on guys, there has been no aggressiveness nor vision here.

    • toluene hawk

      There doesn’t need to be. The Nuggets compiled their team a 2 years ago. Why do people on this board want the team blown up and restocked with similar talent every season- are you still holding onto Obama’s “Change.” mantra? That already happened 2 years ago.

      I am just starting to get attached to the guys that are on the team now. Let em play, sheesh. They won 57 games last year, and it is consensus that they only lost the playoffs due to George Karl. Well guess what, all our ‘winning’ players are still here, and our ‘losing’ coach is gone.

      Stop being 14.

      • Charliemyboy

        Can you not see what has happened? Where have you got confidence of vision or progress? W/Masai and Karl we were the best in Denver’s history. Are we going to be better? Destabilizing will not fortify a well built house. So far, moves with KK and lackluster draft have indicated more mediocrity. I want to like Shaw, but he’s a rookie. We’ll see. Bottom line: 57? Try 47 and no advance in playoffs. Bets?

        • toluene hawk

          Armchair GM,

          Lackluster draft? In what sense? We had the 27th pick, how much Luster can you get from that? Also, do not judge the draft until 2 years later. I think Josh and Tim are navigating their business very well- moving out of a 1st round contract aides in signing a proven player that can contribute immediately.

          • Charliemyboy

            Comparably, what has Toranto done? Not thinking small. Why will we struggle to get 45 wins this year?

          • dynamo.joe

            Who? We have received no one who can contribute immediately. And Arthur won’t contribute ever.

      • LBJ

        Well, let’s get off our ass and retain that team that won 57 games. Get Iggy signed! What the hell are we waiting for? Another team likes Sacramento to come along and give an offer that he cannot shop?

        • toluene hawk

          The Nuggets cannot make a deal official with Iguodala until July 10th. It is only natural for him to go out, network, meet people, etc. The Nuggets’ offer to Iguodala has been published as 60M over 5 years.

          I personally love Iguodala as a basketball player for the Nuggets. He is my favorite NBA player, I went to my first Nuggets game when they played the 76er’s when he was a rookie, and I fell in love with the game he plays- a jack of all trades and a master of defense. I thought I was dreaming when the Nuggets traded for him, and I will be heartbroken if he chooses to play elsewhere.

          • LBJ

            Yes, he can’t officially sign – but all other teams are getting commitments from their FAs. The longer this drags out, the chances of his resigning decreases.

            • toluene hawk

              I sincerely doubt he will leave. It would make me so sad and I have been sending numerous ESP messages to him.

              • LBJ

                Well why didn’t you say that earlier????? I can stop worrying now!!!

  • steve

    i think we made a really strong competitive offer to iggy. i was thinking 5 year 60 mill but 63 is just slightly higher. get him for another year at less per year. I dont think they should budge from this offer. I really want him back, but i’m not willing to pay him 14+ per year. That’s insane for someone who will be 33-34 at end of contract and is probably about to complete his prime years. Good job newbie GM. i like what i’ve seen so far.

    • avarra

      I agree – Maybe a tad high, but then if he improves his FT % then I’d be pretty happy with it. I don’t think the Nugs are going to have to budge and I believe that AI will ultimately decide on us. I’m pretty stoked about our FO and I’m super excited about our new coach. I think the Nuggets are gonna be awesome.

  • EWilson

    I think the 5/63 is a respectable offer for Iguodala. A tad higher than I’d like, but about what he’s worth. (It’s too bad you can’t do incentive contracts, because I’d offer him a boost if he’d average 80-85% from the free throw line.) If someone wants to offer him more than $12.5 million a year for 4 years, I’d let him move on.
    If we don’t re-sign Iguodala, then I think the Nuggets ought to refrain from spending any money on a free agent SG and let Hamilton and Fournier duke it out for the job this year. In the short-term, the results of handing the job to one of those two probably won’t look good, but they both need playing time to develop. And both have skills that the team could use, though they’re probably going to begin as sieves defensively to start.
    And if things get really bad, maybe we could trade for that guy Aflallo down in Orlando who seems to be pretty good and who the Magic don’t seem to want. ;-)

    • googergieger

      Na, if Iggy bolts, get Kirelenko. Really great defender and high B-Ball IQ guy. Hell I say we go after him in general, cause him, Gallo, and Iggy would be a monster defensive line up. Probably mean getting rid of Chandler though.

  • KW

    I was a bit shocked mid season when I heard Jalen Rose say, ‘He can opt out at the end of the season!’ about AI. As if it was a forgone conclusion that only nobodies play in Denver, as if it was already written that AI would leave. I think it sucks but I think it’s true. He’s going elsewhere.

    I don’t really like him on the nuggz. Horrible from free and only decent from three, couldn’t shut down Klay or Curry in the playoffs and I’m not certain his locker room leadership is worth anything. He was an allstar, once. Once.

    • LBJ

      I seem to recall Iggy shutting down Klay in the playoffs.

      • googergieger

        Outside of Ty the only person that showed up in the playoffs.

  • heykyleinsf

    Korver just re-signed with the Hawks.. $24M/4Y deal.
    $6M per year.
    Is Andre Iguodala really worth over twice the money
    Kyle Korver gets??

    • LBJ

      Yes

    • googergieger

      I’m effin worth over twice the money Korver gets.

      • heykyleinsf

        now I’m seeing a tendency for hysteria.
        nobody is going to give Iggy that kind of
        money but us. He will come back..
        Within a few days I am guessing.
        If you are going to say a sharp shooter like
        Korver is a dime a dozen..
        And Iggy is worth twice as much..
        there’s no objectivity when it comes to this.

        • LBJ

          Actually, there is a lot of objectivity. Korver has one skill and doesn’t create his own shot. Iggy is an all around player whose biggest weakness is not shooting enough.

          The NBA agrees with me – as Iggy will get twice as much as Korver.

          • googergieger

            Indeed. I mean even Redick and Dudley(great pick ups on both accounts, Clips) have more than shooting to their name.

            • heykyleinsf

              I’ll go ahead and take the first cheap shot..
              free throws.
              Secondly.. the NBA doesn’t agree.
              One time all star.
              Wasn’t on the first or 2nd all-defensive team.
              here’s what Philadelphia fans thought of him
              when Sports Illustrated listed him as the 3rd
              most over-rated player in the NBA
              http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sixerville/Is_Igoudala_overrated.html
              and I’m not alone.. as a Nuggets fan.. calling him over-rated
              http://www.the-coli.com/coliseum/109977-andre-iguodala-overrated.html#.UdWi7uAlazA

              I do want him back. I do think he fits us.
              But I’m not seeing him worth THAT much.

              • LBJ

                The NBA does agree fool – that is why he is going to get paid twice as much!

                BTW – how many all star teams has Korver made?

              • heykyleinsf

                listen fool.
                The Nuggets are the only ones offering.
                And to add insult to injury, Iguodala is milking it.
                Thereby also preventing any and all other options.
                Iguodala has the Nuggets by the short and curlies.
                What other team cares as much right now?
                The NBA does not see it the way you do.

                And Korver has made one less all star game,
                and HELLO??? Makes half the salary.

              • LBJ

                That means the NBA values Iggy twice as much as Korver – which was point in response to your question! Keep up, dumbass.

              • LBJ

                Where do you get the idea that only the Nuggets are interested in Iggy? You really are clueless.

            • Robin GRAVES

              Redick.. half of Iggy’s salary.
              Is Iggy worth a Reddick + a Korver?
              Splitter’s deal was outrageous..
              but still $3M a year less
              Allen $5M a year.
              Martin signs for $7.5M
              Iguodala getting $12M a year.
              Haha..
              Tell yourself what ever you have to.

              • googergieger

                From now on, I’m going to treat people that know fuck all about defense with the least ammount of respect my upbringing allows. Daft c___s.

              • Robin GRAVES

                Good for you, getting rewarding life goals and prioritizing them to fulfill your life and make the world a better place.

              • googergieger

                That isn’t a reply to what I said.

              • Robin GRAVES

                Oh.. but it absolutely was!
                the “From now on… ”
                that little resolution you made..

              • googergieger

                Yeah, da fuck does that have to do with life goals and fulfilling my life? From now on I’m going to start putting skittles on my ice cream. Very little effort. Just an I feel like doing this, really. But good on you using internet knob tactics sarcasm 101 with your reply there. I’m sure anyone else, would have left your post well enough alone.

              • Robin GRAVES

                And maybe if you weren’t such an attention whore yourself, you wouldn’t get so angry and offended by a little flippant sarcasm? And maybe just leave the post well enough alone.

              • googergieger

                It took all of less than a minute to reply to what you said. In all honesty, it probably took twenty some odd seconds. Mirror statements do nothing for me, sport. Just shows me how dime a dozen you really are. You sarcasm sucked. I pointed it out. Get better? Or don’t. Apparently you’ve just found out about the internet and all.

              • Robin GRAVES

                But still.. you have felt threatened enough to be this defensive and committed to this conversation. You can try to tell yourself what ever you want, you can try to tell me and anyone else whom you’re worried about thinking less of you.. but by the virtue of responding alone, not to mention so emotionally.. says a lot of what kind of person you are as well.

              • googergieger

                See the problem with replies like yours is, well, essentially you just insult yourself. Because you at least acknowledge whatever you are spewing is your opinion. Your ideas and such. Me I can just blow a raspberry at the whole thing. You on the other hand, are boned. As it stands.

                *blows raspberry*

                Phooey.

              • Robin GRAVES

                You like your nebulous precious nuanced intangibles.
                The only thing I see in Iggy is a superstar 20% of the time, that if he played like that 100% of the time.. I could see giving 25% of the payroll. No reason not to be hopeful.. because he was one of the few Nuggets to shine in the playoffs. Nobody ever said Iguodala is not a star defender.. why are you so touchy about that? Did anyone ever.. anywhere ever.. say that?
                Well.. the NBA didn’t put him on the first or second all-defense team.. but still.

              • googergieger

                Redick, Korver, Allen, Martin, according to you are worth as much as Iguodala if not more. What is your justification for that logic?

              • Robin GRAVES

                No silly..
                I said those are all players making less. ALL OF THEM.
                Didn’t say a damn thing, other than the Nuggets are obscenely over-reaching, over-paying and strangulating
                their possibilities with the pursuit of Iguodala.
                Whether the other players compared are equal.. is
                debatable.. also debatable is what any other team
                think Iguodala is worth. Totally a market comparison.
                Iguodala is pricey. In comparison? I said nothing about
                how they rate with Iguodala.. but if you ask me.. none
                of them are half the player he is. If you say that, you’re crazy. The Nuggets are going to get him, and overpay dearly. Cheer up!!! You win!

              • googergieger

                “Haha..
                Tell yourself what ever you have to.”

                Iguodala defensively has the same impact Noah and other bigs in the NBA have, and unlike a lot of them, has something beyond defense to his game. Will we over pay for him? Probably. We do need him though, and if comparatively speaking I can hire a guy who can do twice the work at two more dollars the hour than anybody else that is applying for this job, well…

              • Robin GRAVES

                Like I said.. nobody is trying to deny he is an elite defender. But also like I say.. and you finally agree..
                we are overpaying.
                There! wasn’t so hard?

              • googergieger

                Never said anything to the contrary. Have often said if we over pay some, it is well worth it to keep him here. You and others on the other hand, want to argue one dimensional sharp shooters are worth as much if not more than him.

              • Robin GRAVES

                again with the “worth as much or more”.
                How did you twist that from people making half his salary?

              • googergieger

                “Haha..
                Tell yourself what ever you have to.”

              • Robin GRAVES

                I thought that was simple..
                did you flunk math?

              • googergieger

                So simply pointing out he was going to make more money than mostly one dimensional players was funny? Alright.

              • Robin GRAVES

                Actually it wasn’t even me!
                It was the heykyle dude that pointed that out.
                but yeah! OVER TWICE THE MONEY.
                And your messiah is hardly a complete player bud.
                He’s embarrassing at the free throw line,
                He doesn’t have a jump shot to save his life,
                and as we saw with Steph Curry schooling him…
                he is no shut down defender either.
                Again.. He is athletic, he hustles.
                He is very average with assists and rebounds as well.
                OVER FUCKING RATED.

              • Robin GRAVES

                AND fleecing the Nuggets for what’s left in the tank as an athletic guy who is muscle and speed more than finesse.
                Not saying he doesn’t offer offense, he occasionally does, but far more often goes in to the fourth quarter with single digits scoring or none at all. I think I know why he is only a superstar 20% of the time.. he only has the energy for that 20% of the time. He’s turning 30, about to fleece the Nuggets and we’re stuck.

              • googergieger

                That isn’t a reply to what I said.

              • Robin GRAVES

                wow did Iguuodala ever show Steph Curry who was boss in the playoffs!! Give that man a raise!!

              • googergieger

                When he was guarding him, or when Andre Miller was guarding him? I’m sorry, please continue your nonpoint.

              • Robin GRAVES

                non-point?
                This will hurt your brain again.
                But Iggy had twice Miller’s minutes.

              • googergieger

                Wow, and he totally was on Steph Curry for all those twice of Andre Miller’s minutes. I see your point now. I mean I don’t, because it doesn’t exist, but you know, “whatever”.

              • Robin GRAVES

                NO!! wait!! Now I get your point!
                When Iggy is in… who ever is unlucky enough
                to be guarded by him.. scores no points at all.
                NONE. Not in Jedi Iggy’s house!!
                Curry scored all those when Iggy was on the bench for 10 minutes.. and GK told Iggy to guard someone else more dangerous. It was all GK’s and Millers fault.

              • googergieger

                I didn’t say anything close to that. You are saying Iguodala was guarding Steph Curry literally every time he scored his points. Because if you aren’t, well, da eff is your point again?

    • Robin GRAVES

      to me it’s besides or in addition to the fact he is
      going to get nearly 25% of the team’s payroll.
      It’s a slap in the face for Ty Lawson, who is the
      leader and best player of this team.
      Ty, unlike Andre Iguodala, is not selfish.
      He made under $200K his first two seasons.
      He never asks for more.
      Iguodala.. whether worth the money or not..
      isn’t about the team. He is about himself.
      He’s going to wait the Nuggets completely out
      of free agency and be forced to stick with him.
      ALSO..
      Iguodala’s game is hustle, athleticism and transition.
      He’s also turning 30, and getting a LT contract at
      the start of age 30. Again his game is not finesse,
      skill, touch.. it’s hustle, athleticism and speed.
      Did I mention he’s turning 30?
      One more thing.
      Your “complete player” shoots airballs at the free throw line.
      Legendarily dumb move Nuggets.

      • LBJ

        Lawson never made less than 200k – that’s way below the minimum! Ty got paid when he was eligible – just like Iggy is doing now. Calling someone selfish for maximizing their pay is asinine. Or do you tell your employer to pay you less than market?i

        • Robin GRAVES

          How many Porsches and Benzes and houses and hoes do I need? Is my motivation all the money I can get or win a championship? Iggy wants money. Not a championship. You’re crazy if you think he cares about anything more than money. If he cared about a championship.. he’d leave some money left over.. but he doesn’t and he won’t.

          • LBJ

            Hoes???? You are stupid ass!

            • Robin GRAVES

              HEEHEE!! Rales and shovels too!!!
              geesh skippy!
              Freak out a little more why don’t ya?
              This is about basketball and a player.
              You don’t need to have a meltdown.

              • LBJ

                Right now it is about a clueless loser that doesn’t know what the hell they are talking about posting a bunch a racist shit!

                Crawl back into your cave, asshole.

              • Robin GRAVES

                you are so desperate to not lose face or an argument that you reach that far? Sweetheart.. do something nice for yourself. Enjoy life. Get professional help. We’re talking about basketball. not abortion.

              • Robin GRAVES

                btw.. I mentioned Ty just a few posts above. I suppose I’m racist against him as well?

                You lose the argument on the basis of you lost your mind. Whether who is right or wrong.. when you melt down and freak out and desperately and so wildly swing.. you have nothing else left.

              • LBJ

                A couple of things I have learned over the years…

                People who post racist comments, usually are racists.

                People who have to claim they are “winning the argument,” usually are not.

              • Robin GRAVES

                All that wisdom is definitely serving you well.
                Look how rationally, intelligently and unemotionally you handle yourself?! You’re the very picture of grace personified.

              • LBJ

                Thank you.

              • LBJ

                Losing an argument to a dipshit that thinks Ty made less than 200k per year and that NBA players don’t need to maximize their pay because they have enough hoes???

                Not likely. Find yourself another board, racist.

              • Robin GRAVES

                Plus the name calling.

              • Robin GRAVES

                it’s one thing when I speak about fictional theory.. you are outright calling me racist among other disparaging things. You don’t know anything about me, all you have is your desperate fragile ego. I don’t need to resort to that. I hold my own with basketball. I will stay, even more because of you.

              • LBJ

                Tell us again how Ty made less than 200k a year, dumbass!

              • Robin GRAVES

                it was sarcasm darling. You never learned much abstract thinking skills did you?

              • LBJ

                It was more about ignorance – which seems to be specialty.

              • Robin GRAVES

                Are you crying right now LBJ? If this is how you handle your emotions over basketball.. wow. How do you handle traffic? How do you handle relationships on a broader scale if you have such a delicate ego? How do you handle real problems in life? This is basketball. The way you act, makes me wonder how you can even tie your own shoes.

              • Robin GRAVES

                more than anything else.. ITS OPINION.
                Lost on you completely..
                is the fact that I am a Nuggets fan.
                I actually want the same team as you want to win.
                It’s surreal that people melt down like this over
                a past time.

      • Kasey

        How is Iguodala selfish? I don’t know if you are talking about financially or during the games, but the man seems far from selfish if you ask me. Don’t just bring up nonsense just because you don’t like the man. So what if he’s turning 30! Iggy seems to keep himself in great shape to prevent injuries, so he has a better chance of staying healthy more than other players that are younger than him.

        • Robin GRAVES

          Gee IDK KASEY??
          taking up 1/4 the team payroll single-handedly maybe?

        • Robin GRAVES

          If anything makes me not like Iggy.. it’s the fanaticism. Did I ever once, in any way, say he was not a good basketball player? It’s borderline Tebowesque zealotry.

    • Robin GRAVES

      I have to thank all you guys.
      I haven’t enjoyed this type of thing since the Tebow days.
      Wouldn’t be surprised if we met before.

      • heykyleinsf

        YIKES!! I feel like the guy that threw the first punch then crawled outside on his hands and knees after I caused the bar room brawl.

        First.. the nastiness sucks. I’m no angel, but it seems we’re all Nuggets fans, sad. Just sad.

        2nd.. There hasn’t even been a deal yet, we don’t know what will happen. It would seem that he is staying, and right now, like it or not, that’s the best for everyone. We won’t know until he’s played out that contract whether it was a good deal or bad. I’m looking at the Sixers and their Bynum deal.. wow. Harder to feel sorry about our issues when they got stuck with that.

        3rd.. Iguodala is a great player and a great fit for the team. The way he played against Golden State made me think we were going to the finals. (Until that 2nd home loss.. then I knew deep inside that it was over).

        4th.. it’s not up to just Iguodala. Everyone has to step up and take it to another level, especially without Gallo. I’m already gearing up for expectations and hopes, just to make it out of the first round. Next season will take a lot of patience with McGee and Shaw and with what ever is left, if Fournier is taking the next step.. Randolph, Chandler, if Miller stays or goes.. hard to tell right now.

        NO REASON NOT TO HOPE.

  • James Duff

    off topic slightly, haven’t seen it on here, julyan stone signed with toronto. boo.