Woj: Nuggets nearing 3-way trade to S&T Iguodala to GSW for TPE, acquire Foye

Adrian Wojnarowski has an update on the Iguodala situation at Yahoo! Sports, reporting that “the Golden State Warriors are in advanced discussions on a three-way, sign-and-trade scenario centered on delivering a trade exception and Utah Jazz free agent Randy Foye to the Denver Nuggets”:

In the deal, which could be finalized on Monday, Denver would sign-and-trade forward Andre Iguodala to Golden State for the four-year, $48 million contract he had agreed to sign with the Warriors. This would create a $12 million trade exception that the Nuggets would have a full year to use before it expires.

Utah would sign-and-trade Foye to Denver on a three-year, $9 million deal, with a team option on the third season, sources said.

This introduced a new dimension to a report from Marc Stein on Twitter just hours earlier:

The potentially good news is that whereas before it appeared Iguodala would walk without Denver getting anything in return, they could now use the TPE to trade for one or more players who will be a better fit for the roster, or as a salary equalizer in a multiple-player trade. Should this be the final result, then the Nuggets will not have lost Iguodala for nothing, and though his loss will still hurt the team, the blow will at least be softened.

Additionally, at $3 million per year, Foye could be a helpful, and reasonably priced addition to a team that has struggled with its 3-point shooting.

None of this, however, is finalized yet, and the situation appears to be in flux. So as always, stay tuned to Roundball Mining Company for all the latest and analysis of this crazy Nuggets offseason.

[UPDATE] – The original version of this post included content about the Nuggets potentially using the TPE to sign Monta Ellis. This was a mistake on my part as, according to cap guru Larry Coon’s FAQ, “The Traded Player exception… cannot be used to sign players.” I have edited the post to reflect this, and I’d like to extend my apologies for the error, and any confusion it may have caused. – Joel

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  • Erlingur Grétar Einarsson

    Have the Nuggets ever actually used a Trade Exception? They got one for Marcus Camby and didn’t use it, and I seem to remember them getting another one recently that they didn’t use either. Was it for Nene? Anyway, the point I’m trying to make is, even though they’ll get a Trade Exception, there’s nothing in Nuggets history to suggest they’ll ever use it. Unless they want to go for a championship team and trade up for a superstar, there wouldn’t be any point in doing so, either. That scenario definitely doesn’t include getting Monta. Please don’t get Monta.

    • TomRMC

      TPEs are almost never used to just get an all-star for free. But they’re quite useful for picking up bench players from teams that are trying to reduce payroll (Denver acquired Afflalo, Brewer, and Fernandez using TPEs.) They’re also useful for facilitating large trades where dollar amounts are difficult to get to match (Denver used a TPE in the Iverson-Billups trade, and I think one may have been involved in the Iguodala trade, though I don’t remember for sure.)

      So if you’re expecting “Boston trades Rondo to Denver for their trade exception”, you’ll be disappointed. But “Denver uses trade exception to pick up bench player” is very likely, and “Denver uses trade exception as part of four-team, 13-player trade, acquiring borderline all-star” is a moderate possibility.

      • Erlingur Grétar Einarsson

        Cool, thanks for the info. I wasn’t sure if they’d ever used a TPE before.

  • Erlingur Grétar Einarsson

    Oh, and Randy Foye would be an excellent piece for this team. Much better than Monta.

  • rob c.

    It is beginning to seem like the Nuggets front office is working for the Warriors. Nothing that they have done over the last 5 days makes sense, and it is looking like there is more to follow. Why would you help the team that just stole your prized free agent from under your nose even more?

    Hickson was an alright signing, but he plays at a position that the Nuggets already have depth at, and Foye could have been signed outright without getting involved in a 3 team trade.

    If they use this TPE to get Monta, it won’t be good. If they get the TPE, and don’t use it, there was no point at all to get it in the first place. Nothing that they are doing makes sense to me at the moment. I just hope that they have something else in mind that none of us has thought about, it could happen, couldn’t it? I mean who saw the Hickson signing coming?

    Questions, questions, and more questions. I am beginning to think that Con is liking the recreational weed too much, he needs to put the pipe down for a minute and regain his senses.

    • Stompy

      You understand that Iggy was gone no matter what, correct? Doing this allows them to obtain Randy Foye and a TPE, so how doesn’t that make sense?

      • Mikey K

        That’s provided they USE the TPE in a way that HELPS the team. Monta Ellis does not help. Letting it rot as they’ve done in the past doesn’t help. I hope this helps us in a trade for something big down the road that no one sees coming.

        • Nunchucko

          Seems straightforward, the TPE is all about options. Yes, prior ones were not used, most likely because there was not a good fit for the team at those times. If it is unused, we have gained (and lost) nothing. If it gives us the option to pick up something good, then the FO will be appropriately praised.

          I should note Monte on this team makes no sense. Hopefully that is not where this is going.

          • sherlock

            I’m almost positive we used the Camby exception, I just can’t remember who it was for.

      • dynamo.joe

        Imagine this scenario. You are walking down the street and a homeless guy asks for $3 to get something to eat. You look in your wallet and see that the smallest bill you have is a fiver. The homeless man agrees to compensate you for the extra cash by giving you the half filled jar he uses as a toilet.

        The half filled jar? That’s Randy Foye.

        • sherlock

          hahahaha i seriously laughed over this for too long!

        • Blue

          I thought Darrell Arthur was the stuff that separated to the top and Randy Foye was the stuff that settled on the bottom of the jar

          • toluene hawk

            How bout you guys show some more respect to some established NBA players who are now members of your favorite team?

            • Blue

              I don’t think you know the definition of “established”

            • dynamo.joe

              Look I know you guys are going to say “Check his 3pt%, he’s exactly what we need”. What I am saying is there are literally hundreds of guys who come out of the NCAA every year who can replicate that for the undrafted rookie minimum. He can do nothing else at the NBA level.

              I’m not really even bagging on the guy for being a bad player. I’m bagging on the FO for being willing to take the jar of poop. Anyone competent would have realized the full TPE was worth more than a partial TPE and a one dimensional player.

              • Charliemyboy

                OK, I agree with the metaphor; but reflecting on the ownership, not the player.

        • Trevor

          This is true.

        • Guest

          While I agree this is not an improvement, I too laugh at your upbringing. Grow and don’t show that you are a punk.

    • asdqqq

      They couldn’t sign Foye, or anyone else except for Brewer or Mosgov, if they didn’t turn Iggy leaving into a trade.

  • steve

    i swear if we sign monta i’m going to be upset. i hate watching him play. and i dont understand why we would need him after the signing of foye. still have andre on the roster…lawson foye fournier dre green…i think we are fine with pg/sg type players. we need a wing after losing iggy. I understand that they want another player that can create for themselves, but monta is not the answer. with Lawson at pg, fournier at sg, chandler at SF, faried at PF and Mcgee at C and have foye/dre at backup PG/SG, Arthur, Hickson, AR as back up bigs until Gallo returns…i think this is still a playoff team. Keep the trade exception and make a deal at deadline.

    • steve

      Looks like hawks and kings though are very much in the mix for Monta, which is good news.

      • LBJ

        Looks like Monta is bound for Sactown.
        Hawks look focused on dealing Jennings for Teague (I’m not sure why).

  • Qmill30

    Randy Foye would be a really nice addition. I like it

  • aaron

    ups for Randy Foye coming off the bench for Fournier. Now, we need to trade Andre Miller and a bag of chips for Gary Neal to play backup point and we might have something here. . . maybe even better than last year since Iggy/Brew were horrendous shooters. We’ll lose some on D, but we’ll hit some of those wide open shots we get in transition.

    Anyone know anything about where we stand with CBRew?

    • heykyleinsf

      I would love Gary Neal. Best deal I can think of.
      If Chauncey is healthy, why not him for a year and who better to help these young guys? I am curious about Brewer as well. I saw the Rockets were interested, but that was before Howard came to them. I am starting to have the sinking feeling that we’re stuck with Miller, but at least George Karl won’t be the other half of that two-headed monster.

      • herpderpnuggets

        good point, i dont know why nobody has mentioned chauncery, just amnesty the shit out of andre miller and sign chauncey.

        • LBJ

          We already used our amnesty on Birdman

    • LBJ

      I think getting Foye means C Brew is gone. He fits best on a team that wants to run. I wouldn’t be surprised to see GSW land him after this S&T deal.

  • Ckwizard

    At this point most of us have no idea what this Nuggets team is going to look like this year! Lawson and McGee will be the starters, probably Chandler at SF. But Faried is no longer the clear cut starter at PF and Fournier is still unproven at SG.

    So we have 1: Lawson, 2: Fournier, 3: Chandler 4: Hickson or Faried 5: McGee as probable starters… With reserves of Aurthur, Randolph, Mozgov (if he signs) at C/PF Hamilton and Quincy Miller at SF ( Both very unproven) Green, Foye ( potentially) and Andre Miller at SG/PG.

    Last year those that wanted to see more Hamilton should finally get their wish, same for McGee and a lot of questions will be answered about Fournier.

    I an inclined to agree that it is looking like a trade that includes Andre Miller and Faried may be in the works but it may be a trade deadline type thing as including Chandler could yield something really good that drastically improves the team!

    As it is currently constructed Gallo in the starting lineup makes this team Very Good again not to far from last years team talent wise.

    • asdqqq

      I don’t get all the concern about SG. Positions are all about who you can guard. Chandler can guard SGs. So we have an experienced starting SG already on the team. Sure he’s a more natural SF, but so was Iggy. Chandler is the Nuggets replacement for Iggy. And while he’s not in Iggy’s class, he’s an above average defender and a better shooter.

      When Gallo is healthy, start Lawson, Chandler, and Gallo. Shaw is coming out of a length-at-every-position defensive system in Indiana, and this lineup would fit perfectly with that philosophy.

      If you look at it this way, so that starting SG is not actually a need at all, then the Nuggets’ moves make a lot more sense. The biggest question marks are who is going to start at PF next to McGee and can we get some shooting to bring in off the bench.

      Because Faried has yet to develop into a good compliment to McGee, it makes sense to bring in some other options and hope that one of them works out. If one of Arthur, Hickson, or Faried can provide a good compliment to McGee, then we’ve got a very solid starting lineup.

      • Ckwizard

        Agree I don’t think SG is a big need. I like how this offseason is progressing and I think the roster being put together complements the talent at the different positions.

        Shaw is the X factor and it will be interesting to see how this team evolves under the new management. On thing that occured to me as I was analyzing the team is that LAWSON IS A REALLY REALLY GOOD POINT GAURD. As long as Lawson is healthy this team will be good!

  • http://www.roundballminingcompany.com/ JoelRMC

    Hey guys, please see the “Update” comment at the bottom of the post. I was in error in suggesting that it would be possible for Denver to use the Iggy TPE to sign Monta. in fact, TPEs cannot be used to sign players, but rather only in trades. My apologies for the confusion.

    • LBJ

      But wouldn’t it still be possible to acquire Monta in a S&T with the Bucks?

      Not that I’m suggesting we do that….

      • http://www.roundballminingcompany.com/ JoelRMC

        Yes, I think you are correct. What isn’t possible is to use the TPE to sign him as a free agent. Thanks for the clarification.

    • toluene hawk

      And you call yourself an RMC author. Tsk Tsk.

      • http://www.roundballminingcompany.com/ JoelRMC

        Hey, I’ve still been here less than a year… isn’t my rookie card still valid?

        • toluene hawk

          We’ll see what George Kalen does with rookies.

    • Brad from Arvada

      Thanks, Joel. Wondering where that was coming from. I’ve never seen any indication that Kronk/Con are that high on Monta. Personally, I thought the Foye deal eliminated that temptation altogether.

      • http://www.roundballminingcompany.com/ JoelRMC

        Sure thing, and let me just say that I love the “Kronk/Con” monicker for the FO, although I might shorten it to KronCon.

        • Brad from Arvada

          Nice. Let’s go with it

  • googergieger

    Can we do a sign and trade for Kirelenko? Throw in one of their point guards, and we move Miller to somewhere else? Heck even give them Chandler if they want him. Does Minny even have Ridnour and/or Barea?

    • Brad from Arvada

      Not giving up on Kirilenko are you, Googs? I think he’d fit nicely, but if you’re trading Miller you gotta come up with a better PG backup than Green/Fournier. And why are you so down on Chandler? Miller + someone (even a pick) for Kirilenko + Barea or Ridnour I like — but I wouldn’t be too hasty with giving up Chandler in that deal. Ill Wil gives some nice space to 4 and 5, esp. when he’s on the floor with Gallo.

      • toluene hawk

        Wilson Chandler and Corey Brewer are such assets to the Nuggets Nation, I don’t know why all the armchair GMs don’t see that.

        • Ckwizard

          Chandler yes but Brewer disagree… Brewer has great effort, enthusiasm, and by all accounts is a great teammate, but he is only ” ok ” on defense and is a extremely inconsistent offensive player for crying out loud his performance in the Golden State series was poor and in the final two games his offensive contribution was horrendous. It is easy to understand why people like Brewer but it is definitely difficult to understand why people are so high on him.

          • Brad from Arvada

            No doubt Brewer struggled with some inconsistency last year and he sucked in the playoffs. But there were more than a few times during the reg. season that he was our best penetrator and corner 3-pt. shooter. Maybe more than any other Nug, he bought in to GK’s philosophy of getting to the paint, and he took some risks doing that. The playoffs tarnished a great season for all the Nugs, but probably for no player more than C-Brew. I hope we keep him. Still “Instant Energy” to me.

            • sherlock

              I like C Brew too, off the bench great energy, hustle. My only wish is better shot selection (although when he’s on, he’s on.) He plays hard D even if he gambles a bit often, but the intent is there. I’d hope we can bring him back for the right price.

      • googergieger

        I know. I’m saying, trade exemption to Minny, Miller to somewhere else, we get Kirelenko and one of their pg’s they have no use for. Give up Chandler to them if it is what it takes. I’m not down on Chandler actually, I know he wants to start. I know it isn’t his fault he has been forced to constantly play out of position. I just think Gallo and Kirelenko are superior defenders to him, and great team guys. I think they both have better all around games than Chandler. If you want to play Gallo and Chandler at the four? Well, with Faried and Hickson and Arthur, I just don’t know if you want to go small that often. Seeing as you want to see if Faried can get better and Hickson can get better as well. Not to mention you still can go Kirelenko at the three and Gallo at the four. Chandler is stronger in the post, but Gallo just denies the ball brilliantly to begin with. Defense wise.

        • Brad from Arvada

          I like your logic on this one, Googs. Only downside is Kirilenko is on the downside of his career (getting old), and he’s known to sulk and pout if he has to be a role player (see Utah 2006-07).

          Chandler probably hasn’t peaked yet, and no one has ever accused him of being a bad defender. Agreed, AK Ds-up better, but I’d keep Chandler/Gallo at the 3, rather than muddying it up with Kirilenko.

          • LBJ

            Agreed. Seven years ago AK-47 would have been a great pickup. Considering the age of the rest of our team – we are better off with Ill Will.

          • googergieger

            Yeah but Kirelenko was a role player on the Wolves and seemed fine with it. He probably matured with that sentiment, I mean Chandler isn’t happy being a bench guy either. Kirelenko is on the downside of his career, but this team needs a defender like him, and Chandler is a good defender but not on the perimeter. I don’t know, I think Kirelenko makes us better defensively and I see Chandler as a Gallo place holder. I mean if Chandler becomes a better decision maker and ball handler, and a better perimeter defender, then sure why not. However Kirelenko is proven, and Chandler seems to be good at shooting, taking it to the rim, and defending in the post. Good pick and roll D as well. What else?

    • Blue

      Yeah, best free agent still available is Kirilenko. Foye is horrible, have any of you actually looked at his stats?

      • Brad from Arvada

        Not thrilled about Foye, but I like 41% from 3-land and career 86% from FT line. We need more help at SG/wing, but Foye’s great to have contribute shooting, that’s about it.

        • dynamo.joe

          The problem with citing his 86% from the line is that it ignores the fact that he doesn’t get to the line. He is incapable of attacking the basket, so he doesn’t need to be fouled. Once or twice a year he will get the 4pt play when someone gets out of control trying to close out late on a 3. And I guess you have a guy who can take techs for you, but the FT% doesn’t really add to his scoring ability.

          • Brad from Arvada

            I noticed that. Guy avg’s getting to the line once or twice a game. Oh well, at least when he gets there he makes his shots. Although . . . apparently when you get to the Nuggets you have to start clanging your free throws. Nonetheless, having a dependable shooter at the 2 was needed, but I’d like to see Foye get sub minutes not starter minutes. Hoping KronCon is still bringing in a defensive minded SG . . . like Sepholosha or Afflalo.

  • Brad from Arvada

    Not done yet. Don’t waste too much time wasting ink on debating this deal. More to come soon.

    • toluene hawk

      I am hoping Brad works at the Arvada satellite office of Kroenke Sports Entertainment. Our own in house ‘source’ =]

      On another note, I was reading the ESPN comment board regarding the J.J. Hickson signing, and I think Quincy Miller was posting there, but couldn’t be sure. If it is him, wish he would sign up here so he could provide some tips on the best way to execute an up-&under” so I can take my rec-league game to the next level.

      • Brad from Arvada

        Just my hopeful thinking coming across as matter-of-fact. Truly I haven’t got a clue.

        • sherlock

          What are you predicting to go down Brad? :)

          • Brad from Arvada

            Gotta take your bait on this one, sherlock. KronCon isn’t finished with the SG position yet. We have to have defense at the 2 to get back to Top 4 or 5 level in West. Foye is not that guy, but hope we keep him and give him good minutes. so who? Question is, who do we give up for a Sepholosha or to bring back Afflalo? Gotta leave it up to KronCon to figure out all the pieces to obtain what THEY know we need most right now — a solid defensive SG/wing.

            • dynamo.joe

              If we got Sepholosha I would take back every bad thing I ever thought about KronC.

            • sherlock

              Lol I wasn’t baiting you! I like getting other peoples thoughts on what moves we should make to get us to the next step! I think you’re right though a defensive wing would be something we need. Sepholosha would be great. I was never a huge AA fan, never thought he was a tough a defender as some ppl thought and his offense was miserable. He’s just not that athletic. I keep reading rumors that Faried is on the block, looking to ship him and other pieces for Love. I love Faried, but I am intrigued by Love. JJ backing him up, I think he could help McGee out a lot.

              • Brad from Arvada

                I meant bait in the most respectful way. KLove? I heard something about that, but I think he’s a pariah . . . self-absorbed, and loves the 3 way more than he needs to. (Maybe I can’t stand him because I’m a Nugs fan.) I always liked AA, and he’s not a home-run, but he is just what we need at the 2, someone we can count on to put on Bryant, Durant or Westbrook. Right now, we have no one to offer some competent D on those guys. I really think KronCon is finished with the post positions, and we’ll be going live with who we have there. They need to give us more at the 2.

  • LDT710

    If the Nuggets got rid of Miller for someone like Nate Robinson as an instant offense guy off the bench I would be very optimistic for the season. It would be a huge upgrade on offense and we obviously wouldn’t lose much from getting rid of Miller’s defense (or lack there of). Our second team would have a great scorer to complement players like Manimal, Arthur, Fournier, and Randolph who all have serious issues creating scoring chances. If Shaw can prove himself to be a good defensive scheme coach I think we could be a very formidable team.

  • MacKenzie Pantoja

    He’s better than getting nothing in return for Iggy, and he does have a reasonable contract, but Foye is not a good player. According to 82games.com, the last time a team played better with Foye on the floor versus him off the floor was back in his Timberwolves days. And that’s not because he’s a backup and he’s sharing the floor with scrubs; over the last 2 years, all but 27 of his games were starts. I’d honestly prefer Fournier.

  • Trevor

    YES! 8million a year for the next 3 years on a couple of scrubs, what a steal. Championship here we come! You guys think we could trade Faried and the TPE for Eric Gordon, Rudy Gay, Travis Outlaw, or Austin Rivers? Glue our young talents’ butts to the bench behind proven bums or just trade them. That would be so sweet.

  • Trevor

    YES! 8million a year for the next 3 years on a couple of scrubs, what a steal. Championship here we come! You guys think we could trade Faried and the TPE for Eric Gordon, Rudy Gay, Travis Outlaw, or Austin Rivers? Glue our young talents’ butts to the bench behind proven bums or just trade them. That would be so sweet.

    • Quincy Miller 30

      ?

  • Bill Riordan

    Hickson, Foye, Arthur, (Kirilenko?)?? Can anyone say “Lottery?”

  • Trevor

    YES! 8million a year for the next 3 years on a couple of scrubs, what a steal. Championship here we come! You guys think we could trade Faried and the TPE for Eric Gordon, Rudy Gay, Travis Outlaw, or Austin Rivers? Glue our young talents’ butts to the bench behind proven bums or just trade them. That would be so sweet.
    The punch tastes soo good.

    • LBJ

      I suspect we have engaged our GM’s former employers about their need for some bigs and their surplus of guards (Jrue, Evans, Gordon, Rivers).

  • joefresco

    As long as we don’t get Monta Ellis. That would be a terrible idea as we are exactly the wrong team for him, and he’s going to command too much money. His destiny is a contender that needs instant offense off the bench

    • Quincy Miller 30

      Agreed

      • toluene hawk

        He is here.

    • Bill Riordan

      Monta Ellis, the only man who could hold Stephen Curry to under 20pts a game.

  • LobCiudad

    I really think the Nuggets should try to bring Billups back for his last two years of playing as a backup PG. Entice him to return with the opportunity to move into the organization after he retires from the game. It would be such a boon to have his leadership and veteran mentality on this team, even if he plays limited minutes. He’s like a coach on the floor…and last time we played a full season with Billups we went to the Western Conference Finals. Just sayin’

  • EWilson

    Whatever any might say about the Nuggets off-season moves, this team now has a much more versatile offense that it did last year. They now have post players who can hit mid-range shots. Foye gives them someone who can consistently hit from outside to pair with Gallo. And, they still have guys who can attack the basket. Defensively, they’re definitely a question mark, but that is Shaw’s specialty, so we’ll see what he can accomplish with the guys he’s got.
    Overall, the Nuggets seem to still be following Ujiri’s no superstar model, but have adapted their personnel to accommodate more of a half-court offense. (Though I suspect they’ll try to run as much as they can to get cheap points.) If it works, it’ll be fun to watch.
    If not, they have young assets on cheap contracts who can be moved to make room to get a star. And, should they do that, they have a LOT of good young players so it’s possible they might not have to completely denude their bench (like Golden State and Houston) to get a couple of stars. Frankly, I’m intrigued by the new season, though I expect a step back in wins. What counts is what Shaw can accomplish in the post-season. We’ll see.

    • LBJ

      I notice we still don’t have a post player that can actually post up (we were second to last in the NBA in post ups per games, ahead of only the Rockets). If we are going to play a half-court offense, we need to fill this need.

      • toluene hawk

        Somebody listens to the Drive

        • LBJ

          The Drive? Is that Dave Logan’s show?

    • Ckwizard

      Agree, Denver has a lot of fun pieces and has the potential to become a decent Defensive team. On offense Lawson is still running the show and Denver should still score a lot of points in transition. If Denver can improve in the half court part of he game on both offense and defense there is no reason they can’t be better than last year. If McGee can become better than this team can dominate and with the subtraction of Igoudala and potentially Brewer, there should be better shooters on the floor at all times.
      Losing Igoudala and with Gallo being hurt Nuggets defense definitely will be a work in progress but that is what the coaches are for. Nuggets are still going to be a top four team in the west next year because Lawson is that good!

      • LBJ

        I like Lawson as much as the next guy – but he is at best, only the fifth best PG in the West (Parker, Paul, Westbrook, Curry – and a case could be made for Conley (strong) and Lillard (not as strong).
        That doesn’t translate into a top 4 finish.

        • Ckwizard

          Lawson is who he is and has gotten better every year, not to mention has stepped up inthe post season the last two years. The biggest problem with our ability to Rate Lawson’s standing vs other point gaurds is that Karl would continuously put lineups on the floor where the only competent offensive players where Gallo and Ty, not to mention the lack of half court offensive identity. Line ups that included Miller, Brewer, and Ty where not only very poor on defense but limited the options in the half court offense, I mean who did Ty have on the floor that could consistantly hit a jump shot? Remember that horrendous Portland game where the nuggets set a record and didnt hit a shot outside the paint until very late in the game?

          Ty is a point gaurd that makes the other players around him better on offense and can create opportunities not only for himself but for others but because of the system ran by GK I don’t know how well he will perform in a traditional half court game. The one thing that became clear as the season went on last year is that Lawson is becoming a better point gaurd

          • LBJ

            I agree with a lot of what you said – we didn’t have a great outside shooting team last year. He is improving as well.

            I don’t think he was great closing games against the GSW. Dribbled the ball off his knee on the last possession in game 3. Missed a huge wide-open 3 at the end of game 6.
            I also think Karl’s offense played extremely well to Ty’s strengths (speed, penetrating ability). I think it remains to be seen how effective he is in a slower, half-court offense (if that is what Shaw runs).

    • Brad from Arvada

      Good post, EW. Not sure Nugs CAN get a “couple of stars,” except by draft. I like off-season moves as well, just hope KronCon is still going to bring in def. help at SG. Oh, and love the word “denude,” you don’t see that one here very often.

      • LBJ

        GSW just signed J. O’Neil, Toney Douglass and Speights. Combine them with Barnes, Green and Nedovic – their bench does look quite so “denuded.”

        • Brad from Arvada

          Innersing breaking news. What’s the source?

  • Jordan

    What year do the magic get the nuggets first round pick in? I know the nuggets have two next year but do the magic get one?

    • toluene hawk

      Josh Kroenke’s online alias is “Jordan”

    • Qmill30

      Yeah Orlando get the worse pick out of ours and the Knicks next year

      • dynamo.joe

        Well, the Knicks look absolutely awful right now, so that pick oughta be pretty good.

        I feel somewhat better about the Nuggets with the pick up of Hickson but he won’t be able to make up for the loss of Koufos and Iguodala. And if Arthur/Foye get any minutes that will drop them a few more games.

  • Quincy Miller 30

    Nuggets have a lot of guys that can spread the floor.

  • Vitor Lago

    Every player we got this offseason I have been a fan of. I’ve liked Arthurs game for awhile, Hickson is a nice player and I really like what Foye can do with the Nuggets, I am looking forward to this season more and more.

    • Brad from Arvada

      Gettin there. Love the Hickson move. Arthur was improvement since we were glutted at C with 7-ft stiffs. Foye . . . eh . . . we needed outside shooting help, and he provides that big time. Still hoping we can bring in a def. minded SG. (Fournier was impressive defensively in reg. season, but looked sieve-like in playoffs.) Good post.