Salt City Hoops’ Andy Larsen talks Randy Foye

According to ESPN.com, the Denver Nuggets have finalized a three-team deal that will send Andre Iguodala to the Golden State Warriors in a sign-and-trade for a $9 million trade exception. Additionally, Denver will receive free agent shooting guard Randy Foye from the Utah Jazz, who took back draft picks as well as Richard Jefferson, Andres Biedrins and Brandon Rush — all of whom possess expiring contracts — from the Warriors. From the Nuggets’ standpoint, Foye will bring much-needed outside shooting to Denver, as he ranked seventh last season in the NBA in 3-pointers made with 178 on a 41 percent clip from beyond the arc. But aside from his long-distance shooting prowess, not much else is known about the journeyman combo guard; therefore, RMC reached out to fellow TrueHoop blogger Andy Larsen of Salt City Hoops.com to learn more about the newest addition to the Denver Nuggets.

1. Randy Foye started 72 games last season for the Jazz, the most in his seven-year career. What was his role with the team and why did Ty Corbin trust him so much?

I think Corbin saw Foye’s shooting skills as a logical complement to the post-heavy game of Paul Millsap and Al Jefferson, making it difficult for opponents to double team the two post men due to the threat of outside shooting from Foye and Mo Williams. I think most Jazz fans would have preferred one of Hayward, Burks, or Carroll to start at that spot instead, but you can see what Corbin was thinking.

2. Foye appears to be more of a shooting guard than a point guard. Is this an accurate assessment of his position? And just how good are his point guard skills?

It is. Foye’s capable of bringing the ball up and initiating the offense, but doesn’t really set up his teammates well (just two assists per game last season) or run the pick-and-roll well (just 0.64 points per possession as a pick-and-roll ballhandler according to mySynergySports.com). He’s not fast, so he can’t really lead a break, and he isn’t great at creating his own offense. Really, you’re just not left with much of a point guard game at all, and so his skills are more efficiently used off the ball.

3. Foye was seventh in the league last year in 3-pointers made. Is 3-point shooting his greatest strength?

Easily, 3-point shooting is Foye’s greatest strength and where he contributes most of his value. Last season, he shot a higher percentage from outside of the arc than inside of it. He’s pretty good at recognizing this, though, as he also took a majority of his shots from beyond 3-point range. If I were a coach, I’d use him pretty exclusively as a spot-up 3-point shooter to provide spacing.

4. Foye ranks well below average in several advanced defensive metrics (255th in the NBA in isolation plays, 279th in overall defensive possesions according to mySynergySports.com). What’s his effort like defensively and is there potential for improvement on this end of the floor?

His effort’s actually pretty good, and he surprisingly made some crucial defensive plays last season in the clutch. His 82games.com PER-against numbers are pretty decent, and he actually was featured in a column last year saying, “My main focus has been defense.” However, given his fairly small size and wingspan, as well as average athleticism at this point in his career, you wouldn’t want him guarding some of the bigger or more talented wings in the NBA (who were covered by either Marvin Williams or Gordon Hayward). I do think his defensive stats last season were significantly hurt by having Al Jefferson behind him. He’s not a defensive star, but he shouldn’t be your biggest worry.

5. In general, how productive was Foye during his lone year in Utah and how was he perceived by the fans?

He set the Jazz record for most threes in a season in his lone year here, and was pretty well liked and respected for that reason. That being said, fans were also frustrated that he was getting so much playing time over Hayward, Burks, and Carroll, and was part of a pretty terrible starting lineup. Those decisions weren’t his fault, obviously, but it did frustrate some. I think he’s a casualty of the Jazz’s rebuild this offseason, rather than a case of a player wearing out his welcome. If the Jazz had the same aspirations as last season, Foye would probably be back.

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Kalen was born in Durango, CO, in 1988 and graduated from Metropolitan State University of Denver in 2013 with a degree in journalism. He's now an itinerant hoping to travel as much as possible before eventually succumbing to the "real world." Aside from writing Kalen likes movies, music, spicy food and the great outdoors. Edward Abbey is his current idol.

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  • Quincy Miller 30

    Sounds like a solid player to come off the bench. Glad we finally have someone besides Gallo that is a consistent 3 point threat.

  • steve

    Foye is a great signing, especially for the price. he is the type of 6-8 man off the bench that you want. He can bring the ball up if you want to, he doesnt kill you on Defense and he hits them 3s which we so desperately needed. Now, if we could only dump andre miller. :) Honestly, i wouldn’t be surprised to see him start for us at the 2 guard due to his outside shooting until gallo gets back which in turn i think Fournier starts then, if he plays well.

    • LBJ

      I would much rather see what Founier can do. I agree that he is Foye is a serviceable bench guy (8-9) who is pretty one dimensional. If we play him more than 20 minutes a game, I think we will be in trouble.

      • TomRMC

        I expect them to be on the court together a lot, with Foye as the point and Fournier as the shooting guard. Even though Karl is gone, the “two playmakers” philosophy will likely persist.

        • Charliemyboy

          The thought is that Foye is not really a point guard, and neither is Fournier at this point. That leaves Andrew Miller.

      • Daniel Winston

        Wit C Brew gone that fees up a lot of minutes. Fours will see plenty of court time, don’t worry.

    • ryanvdonk

      we could go big once gallo is back and start chandler at the 2…

  • Quincy Miller 30

    There are rumors that the Wolves might do a S&T to get Corey. Do you think they would throw in Derrick Williams? I think Shaw could bring out all the potential in him.

    • toluene hawk

      Is he a 3 or a 4?

      • herpderpnuggets

        i think he can play both like gallo, but we really dont need that.

        • Quincy Miller 30

          I think it would be a good idea until Gallo comes back. We can put Wilson at the SG and Derrick Williams as the back up SF when Gallo is back.

    • Charliemyboy

      Corey is gone. I really liked him. All heart. Guess Josh didn’t think so. Phooy.

      • Dikembe

        yeah he was good but definitely not essential. His performance was always so inconsistent i mean i didn’t even see him make one good play in the playoffs. That being said his defense will be missed i am very scared that our defense will be nonexistent this season:(

        • Charliemyboy

          I’m just glad he got $5mil; that’s great for a hard worker and good man. So many of the players are questionable in character; blessings and good fortune for Corey. It’s hard to put a price on character.

  • heykyleinsf

    One thing to keep in mind, it’s always important to have depth. It seems like per capita per player, the NBA has a higher rate of injury than any other sport. Actually there have been NFL players who have missed a year from an injury playing basketball! IDK.. but for some reason, it seems like it’s getting worse.

    • Brad from Arvada

      I agree. Foye provides depth at 2. But he’s only a role player, albeit much needed long-range shooter that Nugs lacked last year.

  • Daniel Nicks

    I’m glad we have someone to stretch the floor. God knows we desperately need it.

    But over the past three seasons, Foye has the lowest field-goal percentage in the NBA of players that have taken a minimum of 1,800 shots.

    I’m happy with landing him. There’s just no way he should be starting for us. At least based on his overall consistency.

    • herpderpnuggets

      its probably because he doesnt finish very well at the rim and isnt very good at mid range….still a solid 3 shooter

      • Daniel Nicks

        He could potentially fit into a nice Kyle Korver role as a starter. But only if he doesn’t force his offense.

    • Dikembe

      He did play for the Jazz last season and with some very mediocre players compared to our lineup. Basically saying anything can change, some players just need the right environment and with our speedy point guards driving hard to the basket i see lots of nice open shots for our new great sign.

  • Brad from Arvada

    Good brief interview, K. And I like heykyleinsf’s comment below about depth. Foye provides that at the 2. As I really stop and think about what Nugs player frustrated me most last season . . . it was Iguodala. Won’t deny I loved his defense, but when we needed a key shot — whether a free throw, a 10-footer, or a 3 — Iggy disappointed SO many times. Yes, he hit some big shots, but SO rarely, and I remember yelling and cussing at Iggy so many times when he’d miss those damn shots! At least with Foye I think I’ll be able to clean my language up a little bit this upcoming season.

    As I’ve been saying all along, however, Foye should not be the the “man” at SG. Hoping KronCon is not finished trying to bring in a worthy starter at that position.

    • Blue

      Overall from the floor, Iguodala shot 45.1% while Foye shot 39.7%.

      • toluene hawk

        The majority of Iguodala’s ‘shots’ were from the paint, whereas Foye was making long distance calls.

        • Blue

          Wrong, Iggy took 491 shots (57.7%) from 2 or 3 point area. He took 358 shots from the paint (42.3%). Unless there is a new definition to “majority.”

          • Charliemyboy

            This is an incomplete analysis. What did Iggy shoot from 3pt; what did Foye shoot from 3pt; what did we get Foye for?

      • Brad from Arvada

        Iggy: 31.7% 3-PT; 57.4% FT. Not really comparing Iggy with Foye. Completely diff. players. Nugs put way too much faith/hope in Iggy’s outside shot last year. And it just wasn’t there. And his FT% was down nearly 17% from his career FT% while he was a Nugget — if he could have hit his career FT% of 74% we likely win a couple more games. So, all I’m sayin . . . Foye brings 3-PT range (41%) and FT accuracy (85%) if he can get to the line. These aspects of Foye’s game, which were lacking in Iggy’s, will be a breath of fresh air (and not so laced with expletives, for me).

        • Blue

          Yeah, I understand what you are saying but you should realize he isn’t a great pickup for us. He is the player we had to agree to take to get the $9 million trade exception. As people have pointed out, he doesn’t make it to the line to shoot free throws that often because he is not a slasher type. He shoots a lower percentage from everywhere else than he does from the 3 point area. I will agree that he is a good 3 point shooter, but he does NOTHING else. Is he just going to shoot a 3 then be taken out? You will be screaming expletives, but just for a different reason.

          • Brad from Arvada

            Fair comments, man. I wasn’t thrilled with the Foye pickup. But the S&T for Foye + the TPE was better than getting nothing, and a pretty shrewd move from KronCon. Foye provides depth at G (1 and 2), and outside shooting. We still need defensive help at SG/wing.

  • Erlingur Grétar Einarsson

    Erm. Why did I not notice this earlier? Wilson Chandler shot 41.3% from 3pt last season. With him as a stretch 4, McGee at C, Gallo as a slashing 3, Foye at 2, and Lawson at 1, this team could really stretch the floor.

    • Erlingur Grétar Einarsson

      Or two units:
      1: McGee – Faried – Gallo – Fournier – Lawson
      2: Hickson – Chandler – Hamilton – Foye – Miller/Green

      A post player, hustle big, 3 shooters and 2 slashers on each unit.

      That’s a serviceable team, isn’t it?

      • Brad from Arvada

        EGE, you’ve penned decent lineups that the Nugs can put on the floor given their current roster — but “serviceable”? — sorry, serviceable probably isn’t good enough. But I do agree that what the Nugs have now with their current lineup is probably just that, serviceable, a 7th or 8th seed in West. With a defensive stopper at SG/wing we could be Top 4.

        • toluene hawk

          Fournier is a defensive stopper.

          • Brad from Arvada

            I like Evan a lot. Showed very good def. moments in reg. season. Sieve-like in playoffs. Not ready for major minutes yet — should improve by playoff time in 2014 if given good minutes. Nuggets do not have enough def. presence at 1 or 2 currently.

        • Erlingur Grétar Einarsson

          I agree with you there. With the insanely competitive Western conference, small moves like this won’t cut it to become contenders. But this is not a 35-win team like some seem to think. Especially with a more methodical coach than before.

          • Brad from Arvada

            The current roster should be very competitive in West, and fun to watch. Hoping KronCon brings in more G help. Gotta also say that I think the 5 is so uncertain with McGee and Moz that it should be a concern to all Nugs fans.

      • Charliemyboy

        I don’t know if Faried and McGee can play at the same time. Faried might have to be on second team. Not sure Chandler can’t start at 2 replacing Iggy. We don’t know enough yet. Sad thing is, regardless, most writers indicate that we have slid, and our western competition has gotten better. Don’t know why we didn’t go after substance; we had the money. Either no one wanted to come here or we think we have what it takes. Either way, we have slid.

    • toluene hawk

      Except wood doesn’t stretch so well. Try again.

      • Erlingur Grétar Einarsson

        Good retort! I’ll accept it!

      • trank

        i think i saw some board stretchers for sale on the internet.

        very useful when you cut it short.

      • Brad from Arvada

        Suggesting Nuggets play like lumbering wood planks?

  • Scott

    ANNNNNNNNND we lost Corey :'(

    • toluene hawk

      Well that sucks.

  • LBJ

    Looks like C Brew is heading to T Wolves – and it doesn’t sound like the Nugs are getting anything in return. 3 years at $15m.

    • Quincy Miller 30

      Well best of luck to him. Hamilton’s time to step up!

    • Brad from Arvada

      Stein: Possible sign-and-trade . . .

      • LBJ

        Does he say for who?
        I assumed S&T was not needed after they dumped Ridenour on the Bucks….

        • Brad from Arvada

          Marc Stein ✔ @ESPNSteinLine

          “Exact mechanics of how Brewer ultimately returns to Wolves — outright signing or sign-and-trade — still being worked out”

          11:33 AM – 10 Jul 2013

          • Brad from Arvada

            Marc J. Spears ✔ @SpearsNBAYahoo

            Deal is done sending ex-Nuggets guard Corey Brewer to Minnesota, source tells Y! Sports

            2:42 PM – 10 Jul 2013

        • Brad from Arvada

          LBJ, I’m not sure how the sign-and-trade works for the Nugs. Are you?

          • LBJ

            No, I don’t. But it sounds like we are not going to do one. It sounds like they wanted us to take Ridenour in a S&T and we said no – so they shipped him to the Bucks and created enough space to do a straight sign for C Brew.

            • Brad from Arvada

              tswat it sounds like

  • Len Nunes

    so Foye goes from being the guy getting minutes the fans wanted to see used by Hayward, Burks, or Carroll to be being the guy getting the minutes the fans want to see used on Fournier & Hamilton…interesting times ahead.

  • wij

    So Nuggets traded Afflalo, Harrington, 2nd round pick from this year, a 1st round pick in next years supposedly loaded draft to the Magic for a 1 year rental of Iguodala, 3 years of Randy Foye and a TPE… who’s laughing now… : (

    • Charliemyboy

      How many wins did we get last year? No one is laughing. Foye could be traded anytime. The dynamics are changing. Too bad in a way. The good teams hold on: e.g.; Miami, SA, Clippers, Memphis.

      • wij

        57. How many do you think this year will be?

        • Evan Woodruff

          60+

          • wij

            LOL!