Spurs to sign and trade for Mozgov?

According to HoopsWorld.com, the San Antonio Spurs have taken a significant interest in Denver Nuggets free agent Timofey Mozgov and could potentially offer up a sign-and-trade deal to obtain him. This is obviously speculation for the most part; however, the Spurs are one of the few teams in the league who have a high success rate with their reclamation projects, so it’s not hard to see why they’d be interested in Mozgov. He certainly has the talent to play at the NBA level, so perhaps the Spurs feel they can act as the catalyst to usher him from third-string center to the glamorous position of Tiago Splitter’s backup. Stay tuned as details continue to emerge.

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Kalen Deremo

Kalen was born in Durango, CO, in 1988 and graduated from Metropolitan State University of Denver in 2013 with a degree in journalism. He's now an itinerant hoping to travel as much as possible before eventually succumbing to the "real world." Aside from writing Kalen likes movies, music, spicy food and the great outdoors. Edward Abbey is his current idol.

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  • Gregory Houston

    yawn

  • Ernie

    With Masai the plan seemed to be get younger and taller. They traded for 3 centers, all under 25. Ai was big for a 2 guard. Galinari was big for a 3. Now the plan appears to be get older and shorter.

    I don’t have any particular attachment to Moz, and I don’t specifically hate Nate Robinson. I just wish I understood the plan, which remains a mystery to me.

    • heykyleinsf

      I would trade a 5th string PG backup for that mouthbreathing waste of space goober Timofey Mozgov. All of the sudden this guy can play??? All of the sudden we will miss him?
      Give me a break.. amnesia from that suffering we went through with him as a starter for 3/4 a season. I’d more happily keep Andre Miller.

    • adsfasefsafea

      they got younger this offseason yo

      • Ernie

        Last year average age of 24.8, this year 25.6 yo.

        • adsfasefsafea

          Andre Millers going to have something to say about that when he gets cut

          • Ernie

            I prefer to discuss what the front office is actually doing vs what they could do. And that is what my original comment was about.

  • heykyleinsf

    Mozzy.. buh bye. Good luck.
    You sucked here.

  • loops

    For what? We are going to have one Center on this team? They planning on moving Randolph to Center or something? JJ Hickson was garbage at defending the paint with Portland. Makes no sense. I’ll believe it when I see it.

    • Bricks

      7-ft centers are overrated. Hickson and Randolph can hold the 5 just fine. Miami won it all without a true center. And, loops, how can we work out a deal for Danny Green?

      • David Acker

        If this deal goes through it would appear that the plan is to get really athletic at every position. Not sure if it will work though?? NOW OLD MAN MILLER(who is one of my all time favourites) MUST GO!! Maybe you trade Mozzy and Miller for Neal??

        • Bricks

          I’d much rather see Green here. No idea if Spurs would pkg him in a deal though. Not a big Neal fan.

      • loops

        I’m not opposed to Randolph manning the 5 at all but he’s not that big of a dude to bang down low against a good post presence. As for JHicks, he’s a big dude but he was poor manning the 5 from a defensive perspective in Portland. I too, would love to have Danny Green

        • Bricks

          It’s well documented how bad defensively Hickson was at the 5 in POR. He has to improve in DEN. If you’re into Hollinger’s PER, Hickson’s 2012-13 is impressive (19.71), ranking higher at the 5 than MGasol, and Howard . . . and higher at the 4 than Ibaka, Garnett and KLove.

          • dynamo.joe

            I’m sure I’ve mentioned this before, but PER is a poor stat because it rewards chucking. Your PER actually goes up the more shots you take as long as your FG% is greater than 25%.

            Having said that Hickson is an efficient scorer so HIS PER is actually a fairly good estimate of his overall worth.

            • Bricks

              Great comments, Trev and Joe. I know the weaknesses of PER, and I’m not a big proponent of it, nevertheless, I happen to believe JJ’s good PER showing points to a player who has a promising upside, and with some development in his areas of weakness can be a consistent force in the post for the Nugs.

          • Trevor

            Just to add on to Joe’s comment about PER: PER has very little correlation to winning, it is more of a gauge for how much of an impact a player has on the court offensively. Check out the Wins Produced per 48mins(WP48) stat to see what a guy can contribute and Wins Produced(WP) to see how much of an impact they had over the course of a season. These statistics value defense just as much as offense.

            http://www.thenbageek.com/players?direction=desc&sort=wins_produced

            http://www.thenbageek.com/teams/den?direction=desc&sort=wins_produced

            Win Shares from Basketball Reference is another good measuring stick. It favors scorers more that WP but is much better tool for evaluation than PER.

            http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2013_advanced.html

            • Bricks

              I like your comments, Trev. How does JJ show in WP48 and WSBR?

              • Trevor

                Wow am I surprised… I have researched all of the Nuggets FA acquisitions this offseason except Hickson. He is some one I hardly saw play last year and had seen plenty of in previous seasons and heard his Synergy scouting report on. Guess I shouldn’t have assumed I knew what we were getting because I was not aware of his play last season.

                WP48= .207 (33rd in the NBA) WP= 10 (22nd)

                WS48 = .142 (70th) WS= 6.9 (42nd) OffWS= 4.6 DefWS= 2.3

                Basically he is a good player that helps his team win games. Comparatively Faried had a WP of 10.7(13th) and WS of 7.8 (27th). Faried is an elite player because of all the extra possessions he creates, loose balls he corrals, and efficient scoring. There is little drop off from Faried to Hickson. He is not a player that you ever run a play for but can expect 10ppg from and will create additional shots for the other 4 guys on the court.

                Now this is all assuming he continues his play from last season. His play in his first 4 season was down right atrocious, especially the season before last. Lets hope his effort wasn’t motivated purely by wanting to cash in on FA.

                http://www.thenbageek.com/players/50-j-j-hickson

                I will change my tune and admit he is a good signing and hopefully will help replace a lot of what we lost with KK.

              • Bricks

                All I know is I watched both away games and went to both home games against Portland, and Hickson was a man amongst boys on the boards — even making Faried look inferior most of the time. And he could score. I posted here when FA season began this summer that the Nugs should target Hickson. Got flack because of his poor D last year at the 5 . . . Thanks for doing the research this afternoon. Quite interesting. With some improved D in Denver, here’s hoping Hickson’s a monster in the post!

            • Clive Lee

              KK had the highest WP48 on our team last year. so sad :(

              • Trevor

                Why is that sad? KK is good player. He is by no means flashy but he was efficient and reliable. Combined with McGee we had the best Center combo in the league. The issue was Karl liked to go small instead of giving them both 24mins or so a game favoring whoever was better on a given night.

              • Clive Lee

                it’s sad because he’s GONE :(

              • Trevor

                Oh, I agree. He was only 23yo too… Memphis stole him for nothing.

              • gimpcom187

                Ahhhhhhhh! Wp like ws and PER have their strengths and weaknesses. PER is the only that attempts to differentiate the value of offensive initiators and offensive cleanup guys. Its imperfect but ws and wp effectively ignoring that part of the game creates a misimpression that it doesnt create a real value. Implying Koufus and mcgee were anything more than high efficiency finisher good offensive rebound guys with minus value defensively for mcgee and averagy for koufus is silly. Aggregate “all-inclusive” stats for nba are nice proxy especially when a players defensive value and offensive “feel” skills are average (passing touch, cutting, picks, catching passes and finishing, ability to adapt when first option is taken away make a fluid pass). Defense mcgee is a good shot blocker and below average to atrocious at everything else. He cant make ANY decisionson offense just catch pass or rebound and dunk. Anything else means disaster. Koufus is more average other than on offense poor decision fluidity. It was a VERY below average defensive big man trio in koufus mcgee and faried.

  • David Acker

    Strange indeed unless it’s for Neal but then who is the back-up??? God for Mozzy though

    • Bricks

      God for Moz? Whoa.

      • David Acker

        How can it not be to go to a contender with one of the to 5 Centers of all time. Can’t be anything but good for him. What’s Duncan got left 1 year??

        • Bricks

          Click your Edit button in your first comment, then change God to Good. Typo, but funny

          • David Acker

            HAHA didn’t pick up on that, well spotted

  • Daniel Winston

    Don’t care much about losing Mozzy but if we could unload Miller in the process…that would be something.

    • Bricks

      I’d like to see Danny Green here. Lawson/Green back together in UNC powder blue backcourt. Mozgov + AMiller + what else to get him? Maybe Belinelli makes Green a bit more expendable . . . ?

      • wij

        why would you even think that the spurs would give up a player like green for what the nuggets have to offer? spurs aren’t perennial contenders for no reason.

        • Bricks

          Doesn’t hurt to think. Also, AMiller is not as loathed as much outside of Nugs Nation as he is by many in it. Coaches such as Pop know that he is as valuable a backup PG as you can find anywhere. And the Spurs are in need of a good player to spell Parker.

          • wij

            I can definitely see that Miller would have some value for the Spurs, but I’d find it very odd if they’d give up a young starter in Green for him, even if Mozgov was in the deal also. Guess it comes down to the size of the Mozgov contract as to what pieces would be required to make a deal.

            • Bricks

              I don’t know, man. Interesting that Spurs bring in Belinelli, a 2 with better career numbers than Green. No guarantee Green starts. Plus Green’s performance in Gms. 6-7 in Champ. Series sure leaves bad taste in SA. What I do know is that Green almost perfectly fits what Nugs need most — a decent defending SG, who can shoot long-range and make free-throws (unlike Nug’s starting 2 last year). You’re probably right, Spurs ain’t cuttin him loose. But I’d love to see KronCon make a move for him.

              • wij

                Trust me, I’d love to be wrong on this one!

    • dynamo.joe

      The Spurs are unstoppable with Miller. Probably didn’t even want Moz just used that as a opener, so the Nugs would “throw in” their actual target, Miller. Cuz the Spurs are smarter than everyone else.

      Just please, Timmy, no Gary Neal.

      • Bricks

        Not unstoppable. Miller doesn’t make that much improvement to any team. But I think he is a great fit for the Spurs, who need a good backup PG

      • Daniel Winston

        Whatever their reasoning PLEASE take Miller. He would fit their team much better than ours.

  • Ckwizard

    I would be disappointed to see Mozzy leave, He played well in the Olympics, he played well against the Lakers a couple of years ago and given our current roster would actually get to play some… But if there was any team out there that may be able to help him develop it is the Spurs. But like others have said if Mozzy leaves with Miller than I will still have hope for this team, Unfortunatly the subtraction of Mozzy and Igoudala means that Houston is probably going to own us and I think that the Spurs are projecting a western conference finals of them vs Houston where Mozgov may become invaluable if Houston tries to play Asik and Howard together.

  • frenchnugs

    what about andre miller and mozgov for boris diaw? we unload a slow, past it miller and mozgov for a guy who can defend 4 positions and shoot. just a suggestion

    • herpderpnuggets

      we dont need another power forward…no thank you

    • Daniel Winston

      We have way too many 4’s as is.

      • frenchnuggets

        But if hickson and possibly Randolph play back up minutes at the 5 and diaw and Arthur split minutes backing up faried. Or even package rRandolph somehow

  • Scott

    Dre, Moz, and Arthur for Green and Blair?

    • dynamo.joe

      At that point you might as well ask for Kawhi.

    • Bricks

      That’s a wet dream. But I like it.

      • Daniel Winston

        Don’t want Blair but…

  • sherlock

    Hmm I dunno, if we are getting rid of Mozzy hopefully Miller is packaged with him. I don’t know who we get back in return though.
    Neal-No thank you we just signed Nate Rob
    Diaw-We are clogged up at the 4 as it is
    Blair-Anther small power forward who can only rebound? Nope
    Green-This is the only move that makes sense for us, but is SA really going to give him up after what he showed in the playoffs for a project center?

    Maybe with Marco and Kwhai they figure they can ship him off? I dunno, if it’s anybody but Green we lose the trade. Mozzy played well in the olympics, if anybody could use a fresh set of eyes he’s one of them.

  • Scott

    Noooooooooooooo

    • Daniel Winston

      What do you expect Connelly to say? “We really want to dumb this piece of…” He has to make it seem like he has value to get value in return so what he says in public doesn’t mean much to me.

    • herpderpnuggets

      nobody believed me when i said this, i heard him say this but now we finally have proof

  • joefresco

    I don’t really care that much about Mozgov, but I don’t like that we’re doing so much trading with smart teams all of a sudden

  • Bricks

    All this talk about Moz/Spurs . . . Sacramento’s been in discussions about Moz longer and more aggressively. Fredette’s being thrown out as possible trade target. Four hours ago (dunno, may be a shaky source): http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articles/18645/20130725/kings-rumors-timofey-mozgov-trade-jimmer-fredette-target-sacramento-san.htm

  • Roberta Nopper

    Mozgov won the game in Detroit last year. I was there and the Nuggets were just plain flat. Mozgov came in and sparked the team. 11 minutes – 4 pts – 4 reb – 1 blk. He puts in quality minutes off of the bench as opposed to a guy who comes in and does nothing to inspire the team.

    He is a great team player. The league needs more guys like Mozgov and less like “westbrook”. Don’t forget, he took Griffin down when Blake tried to dunk on the Nuggets.