BREAKING NEWS: Timofey Mozgov Agrees to Contract Extension With Nuggets

As first reported by Yahoo!’s Adrian Wojnarowski the Nuggets and center Timofey Mozgov have finally reached an agreement on a three year, $14 million contract extension. 

According to Wojnarowski sign-and-trades were talked about but the Nuggets and Mozgov finally came together on the terms of the deal and were able to get it done.

The deal will include a team option in the third year, a source said.

 An opportunity for Mozgov to play a significantly increased role with Denver opened because of a draft night deal that sent center Kosta Koufos to the Memphis Grizzlies. Mozgov will play behind starting center JaVale McGee under new coach Brian Shaw.

 Several sign-and-trade scenarios were discussed over recent weeks, but Mozgov and the Nuggets were committed to re-partnering after getting closer on the terms of the deal in the past week, sources said.

The move looks as if it completes the Denver roster, though the possibility of the team signing second round pick Erick Green still exists. To do so the Nuggets would have to open up a roster spot though and it is hard to see where that opening would come from outside of finding a team to dump Andre Miller on.

Basically, this looks like the Nuggets for next season barring unforeseen circumstances.

It also continues the trend of confusing signings that has plagued the Nuggets this offseason.

After all the team traded Kosta Koufos, who made around $3 million a year earlier this offseason  and now has agreed to pay a player in Mozgoz who wasn’t good enough to take minutes from Koufos last season and also happens to be three years older.

It is understandable that the team wanted to play JaVale McGee more but it continues to be confounding why Denver wouldn’t just use Koufos as the backup, especially now that the team has added JJ Hickson to the roster to play power forward, taking minutes from Darrell Arthur who was acquired in the Koufos trade, and signed Mozgov for almost $2 million a year more than they would have paid Koufos.

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  • Paul Highum

    Great, he’s making more than KK now. That’s just wonderful.

  • Andrew Streight

    what the fuck are they doing? I like resigning Mozgov, but for $14 million? If there’s no trade in the works, we are seriously derailed right now. No direction.

    • jake

      Josh is a buffoon who only cares about his money. These goobers haven’t done anything right this year other then signing Nate for 2 Mill a year. We still have zero post scorers for the playoffs, and we just capped ourselves out by signing Mozgov. Need a huge trade to go after a Monroe type guy from the Pistons.

      • Andrew Streight

        Fingers crossed that this isn’t actually as aimless as it seems and they’ve got a big trade in the works. Nate Rob signing makes me a feel a little better, at least they’ll be fun to watch even if they totally suck this year.

      • Paul Highum

        How does this prove he only cares about money? He’s paying this guy more thank KK. Also we added post scoring in Hickson. Now I haven’t necessarily agreed or understood all the moves they have made but I definitely don’t agree with your analysis of them.

        • Andrew Streight

          Seems to me that it’s less about money than it is about a failure in trying to get the realities of the free agent market to line up with a vision for the team that still seems to be a moving target.

          • Paul Highum

            I was simply saying nothing he has done this offseason has screamed, “cheap”.

            • Andrew Streight

              I agree with that. This move certainly isn’t cheap.

              • LBJ

                This move isn’t cheap, just stupid. Mozzy is 3 years older than KK.

      • Bricks

        Hickson improves post play offensively. Arthur will too. If any more dealing is to be done it has to be for a start-worthy 2.

  • loops

    I honestly preferred Moz go Kosta. Call me crazy but I thought Karl was crapping the bed not playing Moz. In limited minutes he looked better. He always looked better IMO. Kosta just did all the small things right but Moz had more offense, more intensity, and rebounded just as well. Kosta was ok at defense but he wasn’t that good. He got worked a fair amount.

    • Paul Highum

      You think he was 2 million more a year better?

    • Daniel Winston

      Mozzy fits better. He is a tough mfer which Kosta wasn’t. I loved Kosta but he shrank and completely disappeared two years in a row come playoff time. That is unexceptionable. Mozzy gives us size and toughness…now if he could just catch a pass.

      • Paul Highum

        I don’t dislike Mozzy, I like them both. I am an admitted believer in Kosta, and I am getting fairly tired of the “this player didn’t show up in the playoffs” argument. I thought Iggy was about the only player that played better in the playoffs than he had during the season. Kosta disappeared sure, but what about Chandler and Faried? As a starter after Gallo went down Chandler was putting up nearly 20 points a game, come the playoffs he averaged what? 8? I think they disappeared as a team.

        • Daniel Winston

          Faried!?! Are you serious? He was one of the toughest most passionate players out there. He wasn’t healthy and still battled and played great late in that series. He also played great last year against Gasol who is WAY bigger than him. Lawson also always rises to the occasion in the playoffs. We just had no answer defensively against GS with Gallo out and Miller playing heavy minutes.

          • Paul Highum

            I love Faried completely, his attitude and hard work are infectious and I know he was injured and battled through it, but he just didn’t wow me, though admittedly he still had double doubles in three of the five games so I guess my memory was a little faulty. Ty Lawson balls in the playoffs, I’m sorry I forgot to mention him.

            • LBJ

              While Faried played hard against GSW, he didn’t play very smart. Committing stupid fouls took him out of game 6 – and he missed countless rotations.

              • Daniel Winston

                Yes he misses rotations, especially when asked to step out of the paint, i.e. to cover Barnes. My point is he definitely doesn’t shrink under pressure.

      • heykyleinsf

        Mozzy is famous for one thing. SOFTNESS.
        Not toughness.

        • Daniel Winston

          What are you talking about? Are you confusing him with NENE?

          • heykyleinsf

            Brothers from different mothers.

            • heykyleinsf

              But unlike Mozzy.. Nene could actually miracle the ball in to the hoop some how. No defense, no quickness, no offense.. Mozzy offers ZERO.

              • Daniel Winston

                I donno man. I guess we just disagree. Mozzy makes bone headed plays, like he doesn’t understand the game that well. But he can also really use his size well. Remember how he played against Bynum in the playoffs two years ago? His size is something few guys have. He is actually much more athletic than you’d think too. He just needs to put some stickum on his hands!

              • MMZ

                exactly… if he could only catch the frickin ball. Hands like rocks

              • Nugett

                Dont forget mozzy can shoot jumpers and is pretty good at free throws for a C. He just needs to improve on all that he has now, which should hopefully happen naturally through the season if he plays a lot. Which he should if he’s back-up.

      • Bricks

        Not enough consistent evidence to say that Moz plays with toughness. Plenty of consistent evidence to suggest he’s lumbering and lost and the NBA game is too fast for him.

    • dynamo.joe

      You’re crazy. Damnit someone had to do it.

    • Bricks

      Kouf fundamentally ran circles around Moz and McGee all season last year. When Kouf was manning the 5, there was a confidence and a sense that there would be flow and cohesion to the team. He got it. Unlike when either McGee or Moz were rotated in. Sad that Kouf’s poor playoffs performance has defined his entire season to so many Nugs fans.

      • loops

        Kouf was solid at times and poor at other times. Was he worth $3 million? Sure. However the guy wasn’t a good player. He just did the small things right. He was absolutely garbage on offense, he got pushed around in the paint. All the guy really did that stood out was rebound and box out. Which is good. However let’s not act like he was some stand out player.

        • hazyb

          Maybe not a standout but I thought he was a great glue-guy, and much preferred him to Moz. Just a better all around player in my opinion – better footwork, skill, hoops-IQ, and I never once questioned his toughness. I don’t put his playoff-collapse entirely on him, the whole team was suddenly a freaking mess (coaches and playesr) and Bogut was suddenly playing extremely well.

  • HollaBack

    They’re not stupid they HAVE to be gearing up for a trade.

    • Andrew Streight

      we can only hope..

      • LBJ

        Unfortunately, it looks like that trade may involve Faried…

        • herpderpnuggets

          I really hope not, after watching the USA camp, he looks like a beast and even improved his game.

        • HollaBack

          They may just plan on shipping out decent players to contenders for dead money and picks

          • LBJ

            We can only hope. Although, I not sure who fits in that category.

    • hazyb

      We can hope but stockpiling a significant number of mediocre assets doesn’t seem like much of a strategy for landing a bigger fish in a trade. I don’t see anyone out there dying to trade a dollar for four dimes. I’m as hopeful of a grander-plan as the next guy but as much as I search every angle for glimmers of hope for this, I just don’t see it. It bums me the F out.

  • ryan cordova

    I don’t understand why DA confuses so many people. He’s a big who can play the pick-and-roll and he can also back up Chandler at the 3 until Gallo gets back.

    How is trading a Center your team didn’t have any future plans for for quality depth that confusing to everyone?

    • Paul Highum

      This does a pretty good job of explaining my personal confusion.

      http://www.roundballminingcompany.com/2013/07/02/what-was-lost-and-gained-in-the-koufos-trade/

      • ryan cordova

        I understand disagreeing with it, but I don’t understand the confusion.

        Koufos had an exceptionally bad post-season and the team decided to move in another direction, much like they did with Karl.

        They traded Koufos at the height of his trade value and nabbed quality depth at their biggest position of need (because of Gallo) while clearing up the ability to re-sign the one free agent they had left that they still had interest in.

        It makes sense, even if you don’t agree with it because of Koufos value to the team..

        • Paul Highum

          If you believe that was the height of his trade value you really think he was only worth DA? Did you notice the article from earlier today and where DA was on the PER and WS/48 rankings of the roster? My confusion is that I don’t see DA as quality depth and that I see him more as a PF than a SF.

          • ryan cordova

            So you’re saying you’d understand the move if you thought DA was worth it?

            So you’re saying you’re not really confused by it you just disagree with it?

            • Paul Highum

              I understand wanting to get rid of KK, though I personally was among those who disagreed with it, I don’t understand trading him for a power forward, who now shouldn’t even break rotation.

              • ryan cordova

                If they’re not looking at him as a power forward though, it changes things.

                I’m not trying to think of whether they have the right players for what they’re trying to do yet, I’m just trying to understand what they’re trying to do, and to me it seems obvious that they see DA as a combo-forward or a stretch four, and they want to give him time at the 3 until Gallo gets back because they think he can space the floor with his shot.

                Do I think they have the right players for that, and did they give up to much for what they got? Completely.

                But I completely understand what they’re trying to do.

              • ryan cordova

                And honestly, I’d rather have DA at the 3, and Hickson at the 4 with Mozgov at Center than going with Quincy Miller at the 3, DA at the 4, and Hickson at the 5 which is what it looks like they were planning on doing if they couldn’t resign Mozzy.

              • Bricks

                I assume you’re talking about rotation players here and not starters. I don’t believe QMiller has ever been in serious consideration to get minutes at 3 or 4, and Hickson could easily start at PF. So, until Gallo returns, 3,4,5 starters are Chandler/Hickson/McGee, with Arthur/Faried/Mozgov rotating. Randolph is third option in post at all three positions.

              • David Acker

                You think JJ gets the start over Faried? Good energy off the bench but the fans wouldn’t be happy!

              • Bricks

                I believe you’re right about that. It’s going to be a great battle at 4. I’ll be happy with either of those guys starting. Just hope Shaw & Co figure out a way to exploit the talents of them both.

              • hazyb

                I just can’t see JJ beating him out – Faried far too beastly.

              • Bricks

                Beastly, yes. Good post player, not really. Hickson, at this stage, is a fundamentally better scorer and rebounder than Faried. Nugs fans are going to love JJ’s tenacity in the post as much as Faried’s.

              • Paul Highum

                Understanding what they are conceptually trying to do and being confused by what they actually did are two different things. Not to mention, the floor spacing from that suggested line up would be down right awful, which Matt already pointed out and I pray we don’t see it very often.

              • ryan cordova

                To be honest I’m not sure the floor spacing could get much worse than it was with the Miller, Brewer, Koufos combo.

                As bad as Arthur is, at least he can hit a wide open bucket at least a quarter of the time.

              • Daniel Winston

                I think we all agree that the only way it really makes sense is if there is a trade that relieves some of the overstock at PG and PF.

              • David Acker

                Miller must go!

              • dynamo.joe

                The problem is if you only hit 1/4, you shouldn’t ever shoot. But when he’s in the line up, DA shoots all the time.

              • Bricks

                1/4? Maybe from 3P. Arthur’s career FG% is 46%

    • MattRMC

      Arthur played 1% of the Grizzlies minutes at SF last year and 0 the year before. He isn’t quick enough to do it and would destroy any and all spacing. The bigger point is that even if Denver wanted JaVale to start they had a cheaper, better option than Mozgov already on the roster in Koufos and traded him for a guy that later moves have made the odd man out.

      • ryan cordova

        What % of their minutes did he play at PF again?

        And saying that they had a better option for cheaper on the roster sounds an awful lot like an opinion of why it was bad, not confusion as to why they would’ve done it.

        If you’re looking at it from their perspective, it makes sense to trade someone you have no plans for for someone you think will provide quality back-up minutes at a position you need, doesn’t it?

        Ignoring whether or not you think they have the right people or not, does that tactic make sense?

        • MattRMC

          38 percent of their minutes at PF in 2010-2011 and 22 percent last year coming off the injury.

          And sure that line of thinking does make sense if you look at it purely based on that move. But when you look at it in relation to the rest of what the Nuggets did this offseason then the whole equation changes because now they don’t need help a PF with Hickson.

          I just don’t think you can look at one move in a vacuum. Everything has to be taken into account and when you do that it looks bad.

          • ryan cordova

            At no point am I saying the moves look good.

            I’m just saying that it’s not that hard to understand what they’re trying to do.

            And to me, they see DA as a stretch forward or combo forward and they’re planning on giving him back-up minutes at the 3 until Gallo comes back.

            It’s not bad thinking if they had gotten the right guy, but they didn’t.

            • Paul Highum

              I don’t think anyone has ever said the concept confuses them, its the player that does.

          • Daniel Winston

            I’m guessing the plan wasn’t to get Hickson but then he was available for less money than thought and we pounced. So we were then “stuck” with DA.

      • Paul Highum

        Thank you for backing up that he is not a SF. I wish I could double vote up.

      • Bricks

        Lionel Hollins to Sean Deveney/Sporting News last year on DArthur playing SF while Pondexter was out: “He can shoot the ball. That’s why he is a good candidate to play the 3-spot, because he can spread the floor when he is in there.” http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2013-01-03/memphis-grizzlies-darrell-arthur-3-point-shooting-no-zero-new-role

        Here’s hoping the guy does a hell of a job spelling Chandler at 3 for a few months.

        • Trevor

          Hollins also thinks Rudy Gay is a good player. He is unemployed for good reason. Arthur should not see meaningful mins at SF.

          • Bricks

            Gay actually is a good player. But he’s a p#ssy. Hollins had every reason to whine when his best player was traded right under his nose — but he got over it and exploited Tayshaun’s strengths to make the Griz an even better team.

            More to the point. Nugs have no choice except to give significant minutes to Arthur at the 3 until Gallo returns. Glance again at the roster . . . JHam, QMiller, Randolph — if you’re willing to give these guys meaningful mins at SF, you are entitled to your opinion, but I don’t agree.

        • Daniel Winston

          Good find on the Hollins quote. But are you forgetting Hamilton? He is more of a 3 than a 2 and I keep hearing he is supposed to get some burn. Would be logical to assume he would back up Chandler.

          • Bricks

            You’re right, JHam is a tweener, and will see some time at SF. Personally I don’t think he’s ready to contribute 10+ min/gm. He’s still an erratic player with little concept of team. Not saying he’s selfish just doesn’t have instinct or awareness of guys around him, settling too often for unnecessary iso play.

  • jake

    DUMB DUMB DUMB!

  • Scott

    He better be throwning down a lot of Russian Hammers this year instead of being known as the guy who gets dunked on…

    • ryanvdonk

      i can’t remember if it was last year or the one before, but blake tried to dunk on him again early on and mozzy pretty much cross-checked him to the floor. blake played absolutely terrible the rest of the game, haha. he must have watched rocky 4 before the game “i will break you”

  • heykyleinsf

    The front office just jumped the shark.
    This ranks right up there with the ridiculous money they gave KMart.
    While not as pricey.. just as monumentally stupid.
    FUCK. (sorry for the language but I hate this)

    • LBJ

      You wanted us to play next year without a backup center? When our starting center averaged 18 mpg last year and has serious endurance issues?
      After trading KK, we had little choice to resign Timo…

      • Bricks

        I guess I didn’t see it that way. Thought we were fine with Hickson and Randolph spelling McGee at C. Also thought Moz would be packaged with Miller (possibly with TEP and/or a pick) for a 2 who could legitimately start. Still hoping a scenario like this is in the works.

        • LBJ

          Randolph is so scrawny he can barely play the 4. He would be a disaster at 5. Hickson was pretty bad defending the 5 least year also. I don’t see McGee playing more than 28 mpg, so our backup is going to log some minutes.

          • LBJ

            Any trade package should include a 4 with Miller, not Mozzy.

            • Bricks

              I’ve been back and forth with this. Faried + Miller, or Moz + Miller, to land a legitimate starting SG. Considering we’re talking about Mozgov as the backup C — who hasn’t proven anything about being a consistently solid defensive player — I still think it’s safe to say that a rotation at 5 of McGee/Hickson/Randolph would be just as, if not more, effective/productive than McGee/Moz . . . offensively and on defense. (Plus I hope the Nugs keep Faried, and he’s the only 4 it makes sense to trade if, indeed, the Nugs want to get a SG of value.)

      • dynamo.joe

        There are probably 10 guys who didn’t get drafted at the center position who could do a passable Mozgov impersonation for whatever the undrafted rookie minimum is. Jack Cooley anyone? Sure you are going to give up 1 or 2 inches in height, but I would rather take a chance that Cooley might develop into a starting caliber C, cause we already know Mozgov won’t.

        And if we got Cooley and he developed we could either make him our starting C and move JaVale or move Cooley.

        • LBJ

          Timo is a decent backup NBA center. Better than any undrafted free agent (they are usually undrafted for a reason). He has a nice jumper from 10 feet, is a decent defender and can box out.
          If he sucked that bad – the Spurs wouldn’t be interested in him.

          • dynamo.joe

            And that reason, generally, has nothing to do with their ability to play basketball and everything to do with the fact they aren’t 7′ tall.

            • LBJ

              If he is as good as you say he is – then he can demonstrate that in the D league. Second, he was a PF in college (and never should have left early) – so I doubt he will be playing much C in the NBA

  • Andrew Streight

    Wait, so is this final yet? I only found one article saying this, but it seems like this might not be a certainty yet? Why wouldn’t Mozzy agree to this immediately?

    http://en.rsport.ru/basketball/20130726/676275277.html

  • Roberta Nopper

    Mozgov had the nice smash on Blake Griffin…..Don’t try the flashy jams anymore Blake.

    • dynamo.joe

      Isn’t that also the game where he twisted his ankle and dropped to the floor writhing in pain like Kathy Bates had just taken a sledge hammer to him?

      • LBJ

        Doesn’t that happen in almost every game Blake Griffin plays? Even though, he could have learned some flopping skills from Tony Allen!

  • PlatoPlaysBasketball

    I got a lot here but bear with me.

    Here’s my evaluation of this offseason. When Tim Connelly got hired he had a vision of what to do. The draft night trade of KK for DA provided a better backup for Faried than Quincy, while clearing cap for Iggy. He also probably planned on grabbing a solid 3pt shooter to help with our atrocious perimeter problems. However the lynchpin in the plan was Iggy. When he bolted, the entire vision fell apart. We then had a gaping hole at shooting guard, lost our best defender and a serviceable playmaker at a time when our second best player(who brings all around defense, 3pt shooting, passing, and slashing ability) was lost for significant time.
    So TimC had to salvage the wreckage left by Iggy. At this point a large number of free agents had already been taken up. There were no good shooting guards on the market, nor many that FOs around the league were looking to shop for the assets Denver was willing to give up. He salvaged what he could in Foye, and got a large TPE as a tool for a possible signing. Denver still needed more at the 2 and the 3, and at this point Mozzy was classified as an asset due to his restricted status. But TimC, a new GM, I’m sure felt to pressure to make a big move. So while he shopped around for that big move, he grabbed up some solid assets on the market for as cheap as possible to use for his power play. Hickson, Robinson, both for cheap. Those 2 and Mozzy are all solid trade assets in theory, and I suppose Andre M could be marketed as a facilitator/veteran leader(although many in Denver differ on the latter).

    But there was no move to be made. So TimC got himself in a bind with logjams at PF and partly PG, and nobody wanted a S&T with Mozzy. Mozzy’s agent I’m sure saw this, and used it as leverage for an outrageous 3y/$14mil. And here we are looking at zero fundamental post defense, with three PF who all deserve more PT than there is to give.

    So in essence, we now must pray that TimC finds a dealing partner to pickup a wing. But I think we should take our chances with Fours. He’s 21, and shoots a solid three ball, and he’s an intelligent defender with size and lateral quickness. Foye is a solid backup. The biggest worries are these, Who will backup Chandler until Gallo returns, and how will PT at the 4 work as currently constructed? Assuming no more moves are made, any ideas on how Shaw can generate success with this roster?

    • Paul Highum

      Although I’m not sure I agree that DA is quite as valuable as it seems you believe him to be, that speculation seems completely reasonable and plausible to me. I also strongly agree that Fournier should start, his ATH projection for this year is higher than Foye, his PER and WS/48 from last year were better, and he has much more room for growth.

      • ryanvdonk

        i say open 3 way competition with those two and JHam.

        any thoughts on AR taking some minutes at the 3? he’s athletic enough for it, but has not really shown consistency on his outside shot

        • Bricks

          My 2¢ . . . E4 should start at 2; Foye off the bench; JHam still has long way to go. Randolph will see minutes at all 3 post positions while Gallo’s out . . . then deep on the bench when he returns. Ill Wil eatin up a lot of minutes at SF for first half of season.

          • ryanvdonk

            honestly jham really has not shown much less the evan. both can handle the ball and attack the rim, jham is a better shooter, evan a better passer. defensively maybe an edge to evan, but he’s also more turnover prone. jham has a knack for rebounding as well. either way they go, i think it would be a good idea to have both getting minutes and give them a fair chance at the spot in camp. competition can make people elevate their games.

            as for randolph, i think you’re right, he’ll probably be the odd man out once gallo returns, but you never know, he could end up moving up the depth chart if he can find some consistency or if a trade happens, or possibly even be a trade piece himself. what i do know is that every chance that karl let him see the light of day last season he worked his butt off on both ends of the floor, and that’s the type of attitude needed to step up his game over the offseason.

            • Bricks

              Very good reads of these players, but I differ with you on E4 and JHam. Athletically there’s no comparison, JHam straight up. And JHam probably outplayed Evan in SL. But Evan has basketball instincts and intelligence that are rare — he plays the Game of Basketball naturally, getting his teammates involved in the game. JHam naturally plays leans toward isolation, one-on-one play, and doesn’t know how to involve the other 4 guys on his team. That’s why at 2 I’d start E4, with Foye rotating in, and JHam getting end-of-bench minutes as a tweener 2 and 3.

    • LBJ

      I don’t think the KK trade freed up any real cap space – I think Arthur makes about the same as KK. Also, I don’t think you can trade free agents until around midseason. Finally, Joshy and Timmy are responsible for the Iggy damage by trying to dick him around on his 5th year (forfeiting our advantage of being able to offer more).
      I do agree that Fournier needs significant PT next year. We are going no where – so let’s see what these young guys can do.

      • Bricks

        Iggy wasn’t going to stay in Denver. He decided that before last season started. Being here was so distracting he couldn’t make his free-throws.

        • LBJ

          If Iggy had decided to leave before the season, Joshy and Timmy are even more clueless than we thought.
          I suspect the turmoil and Joshy’s “frugality” had a lot to do with Iggy’s decision. Ty pretty indicated as much.

          • Bricks

            Iggy said that himself just last week — that there was a good chance he would’ve stayed if not for the major changes. I don’t buy it. His heart was never here. Which is fine. As a Nugs fan I don’t feel slighted by Iggy leaving at all. Had to do what he had to do . . . however, I agree, that KronCon couldn’t see that is just plain naive.

            • LBJ

              I doubt that any of us can see what is in someone else’s heart.

              • Bricks

                You can’t see what’s in man’s mind, but actions derive from what’s in a his heart. And actions can be seen. In sports, especially, “heart” or lack of it is quite obvious.

              • LBJ

                I didn’t see any lack of heart from Iggy last year. Unlike Melo, he didn’t quit on his team and demand to be traded.

              • Bricks

                I agree. On the court Iggy played with heart, but he didn’t want to be a Denver Nugget from the day he was traded from Philly. And, just a personal theory, I believe this affected his outside shot and esp. his FT shooting. He consistently missed shots here that he routinely hit as a Sixer.

              • dynamo.joe

                This is my personal theory.

                Iguodala: We need defense.

                The KronC’s: That’s the plan for this off season.

                KronC’s: Sorry George. You’re fired.

                Iggy: OK, no more switching, nice.

                KronC’s: K2, you’ve been traded to Memphis.

                Iggy: Wait! That dude was our best paint defender.

                KronC’s: Stone, we ain’t gonna make you a qualifying offer, good luck.

                Iggy: Wait! Remember, I was trying to get GK to play Julyan in late game situations when we needed stops? With Stone/Me/Gallo/Wil/K2 we could have stopped just about anyone. What happened to ‘defense is the plan this off-season’?

                KronC’s: Well, a wise man once said “sometimes the best De-fense is a good Oh-fense”. You know who said that?

                Iggy: No, who?

                KronC’s: Mel, the cook on ‘Alice’.

                Iggy: Good luck, I gotta go call GSW.

      • PlatoPlaysBasketball

        I see on the FA trading dilemma, on further revision I think AR15 needs to go with Miller for a backup 3 to compete with J-Ham for minutes. Only solution I can see.

        And Iggy was the one dicking around. We offered him more money, he said no. His body language during the GS series indicated he admired Jackson and his team. Given the choice of playing with GS who A) just beat the nuggs, B)had a charismatic coach, and C) had Curry, or with a Nuggets team in flux, its not surprising at all. The money we offered probably made him pause, and Iggy has always been a cerebral guy, and does not make these decisions hastily. While his contemplation hurt us in free agency, that’s not Iggy’s concern to be honest. He has his own motivations, and if he had chosen Denver the pieces we needed to supplement him were minimal, more easily found later in FA.

        In regards to Josh and Tim, how else could they have acted? Not have pursued Iggy? They would have been justifiably vilified as incompetent by the fans and analysts, whereas now most seem to be confused on the direction more than anything. They offered him the best terms possible without jeopardizing the team’s future, and he said no. So here we are, trying to salvage a poor situation which was more or less inevitable following Karl’s departure.

        • LBJ

          We never offered him a fully guaranteed fifth year. We tried to save a few bucks (foolishly) by offering him a partially guaranteed last year. Combine that with Karl and Masai leaving and an inexplicable trade of KK without having a backup C signed – is it any wonder he bolted for a team that has their shit together? He wants to win – and he didn’t see that happening with Joshy boy in charge.

    • Bricks

      Well done, PPB. How true. Iggy bolting put a wrench in KronCon’s Plan A. Shame on them for not having a viable Plan B — inexcusable for a FO at this level, the highest in sports management. But as you’ve suggested, maybe they did the best they could with what was available late in the FA sweepstakes.

      That said, I don’t believe dealing is done yet, but I truly can’t imagine how the heck KronCon can structure any kind of deal that could dramatically improve the Nugs with this latest signing of Moz. Not before the season begins anyway.

  • Darius

    These guys can pay 4.75M a year for Mozgov but can’t find a measly 1M extra for the GM of the Year Masi Ujiri??? This franchise has gone from a contender to a team aimlessly signing mediocre players. I’m hoping for the franchise sake that a trade is on the way.

    • jake

      Josh is cheap man. I don’t care if he shells out money for mediocre players, at the end of the day Josh thinks he’s smarter then everyone else. Josh thought he could get by not signing Masi and the people around him because he knows basketball… Josh is arrogant, and the Nuggs will never win anything with him at the helm. Trust me I’ve been waiting for years and years.

      • Bricks

        Josh has only been Pres. of Nugs for, what, two years?

        • jake

          He’s not even the president anyways his dad is. Josh just fills the chair so his dad can own the Rams.

          • Bricks

            Josh is President. Stan’s the owner.

            • jake

              You are missing my point. I don’t care what title Josh owns, Stan runs the show.

    • PlatoPlaysBasketball

      Business savvy minds are easier to find than seven foot one Russians with competent defense, mid range game, and gritty attitude. Supply and Demand. I agree on the trade, but Mozzy won’t be part of it. Need to lose a PF(who isn’t Faried or Hickson) and Miller, add backup SF for less than 4mil a year.

      • Bricks

        PF and Miller (and $$ and pick) — whatever it takes — for a starting, defensively competent SG . . . not a backup PF. (Backup SF would be a luxury not a great need; SG/wing is most pressing.) We’ll be slim at SF until Gallo returns, but Ill Wil, Arthur, Randolph and JHam will need to secure the position. I think they’ll do fine.

        • PlatoPlaysBasketball

          See I don’t think SG is as big of an immediate need as it’s being made out to be. While I think that having a tony Allen or something similar in terms of skill set would be an upgrade, I am alright with seeing what we have in Fournier, I think he will show immense ability this year in starters minutes. Foye is and will always be a solid backup to do what one wants from a traditional shooting guard: make 3’s. But anyways, if our roster is to be as is, we will have to wait and see what shaw can do, and keep our eyes open for possible stars through trades.

          • Bricks

            With the current roster I, too, want E4 to get starter’s minutes. Also agreed that Foye is nothing but a backup at 2. However, the 21-yr-old soph Fours is not ready to be a starter in an 82-game NBA season. The stud SGs will exploit his weaknesses badly, particularly his lack of strength and quickness (weaknesses that will improve greatly in a year or two). As much as I love his game, this would hurt the team and, frankly, result in losses. The only defender the Nugs have who is capable of guarding Kobe, Westbrook, Harden, and yes, Iggy is Chandler. But Chandler has to secure the 3 until Gallo returns, and even then Chandler is most valuable to the team as a rotating 3/wing, not a 2. Nugs cannot rely on Chandler to guard the league’s best SGs (because it leaves them too vulnerable at 3) and they do not have any SGs currently who can guard the elite 2s. It’s quite obvious to me: Nugs need a starter-worthy, SG who can defend. This will right our biggest wrong.

  • Ckwizard

    This is a good move all things considered. This season is going to be about Lawson and maybe Robinson to some extent if injuries are a problem but as it stands this roster is once again loaded with talented players at all positions with talented depth. Mozgov is a good fit and provides needed depth at the five and most importantly he has shown he will not back down from a challenge which is an attitude that this team needs. In the grand scheme of things if this Roster tanks then Ty isn’t as good as I think he is and if this Team wins 50+ this year it will be because Ty is as good as I think he is! Shaw is the wild card this season but he Nuggets still have Home Court Advantage and a speedy PG that can and will run opponents out of the gym , if anything Shaw should make this team a more competitive “road” team which was one of Karls greatest weaknesses. This is going to be a fun year!

    • dynamo.joe

      If this team wins 50 games, as is, either Ty or Faried is the hands down winner of the MVP

  • Qmill30

    I didn’t mind the Koufos trade at the time but now it looks pretty bad. Could have saved money on a younger and better back up center. I don’t see how Arthur gets any substantial minutes now behind Faried and Hickson.

    The only thing Mozgov brings is a little more physicality

    And slightly off topic butI know Masai was a “genius” but he also left us with the contract of Andre Miller..

    We’re starting to have one or four too many overpaid role players which we all know is the worst thing to do in the NBA

  • Bricks

    Too much Kahlua in the White Russian

    • Evan Woodruff

      I don’t agree, but that was very clever. Props.

  • Evan Woodruff

    To be quite frank, Tom and Josh both thought, and agreed that they wanted to go forward with Mozgov over KK.
    I’m sure they got feedback from multiple staff members and coaches on the team concerning this decision as well.
    And all of the above know more about basketball then we do. They get paid millions it’s their day job, 8+hrs a day is to analyze this stuff, after-all.
    Shaw is good at developing big men and probably had a pretty big impact on this decision. my speculation is that KK is at his peak, Mozgov isnt. Age regardless. Some come around later then others. KK is too soft, Moz is a better defender. People who argue this point that he isn’t a better defender, are right. However, the reason he isn’t is because he doesn’t rotate like he should. This comes with experience and playing time. And a better system (aka SHAWS). Whereas, in contrast he is a MUCH better one-on-one defender and can stand up against literally any center in the league. Meanwhile KK got humiliated more times then not.

    Just take a step back and remember Karl starting Mozgov against bynum when he began scorching KK in the playoffs 2 years back? Well it worked and got the series tied up and the 6th seed had a hell of a chance to beat the defending champion 3 seed Lakers. Mozgov, and his stellar one on one defense on probably the best one on one center in the NBA was a key element in coming back in that series.

    My point being, Mozgov has more upside despite age, and is a much better defender. This is especially important when coming off the bench for J-Mcgee. While Mcgee is great for shot blocking and making wings and slashers think twice about their shot (altering most of them) he isn’t the toughest man in the paint, so it only makes sense to sign a guy that excels in this area. That man being none other then Mozgov. This is a brilliant move. Maybe against a Howard/bynum/Gasol team Mozgov gets a few more min, whereas against a slashing/driving team McGee gets a few more min. Defensive flexibility; the ability to adapt to the team and the style they play will help a lot.

    You cannot teach toughness and instinct. You CAN teach rotations. Tim knows that, Josh knows that, and Brian recommended it.

    • Bricks

      Well thought out ideas, but this wasn’t a “brilliant” move as it pertains to rotations. I think this will pan out to be a move to help posture Nugs for a future deal.

    • Evan Woodruff

      As far as money goes? I honestly don’t give a #@$%. It’s not mine. I just comment on the new player on the roster. The team is what I care about, I’m not the one spending the cash.

    • LBJ

      l agree that this decision was made before the draft. However, that timing allowed for little or no input from our new hires. Whether it is a correct decision, remains to be seen.

    • eddi0

      Still have not heard anything from the front office as to the rationale for the KK for Arthur trade. Arthur is recovering from a very nasty injury and really hasn’t played any significant minutes in over a season. KK is not very talented but he had the best fundamentals of our big men. Probably will never post numbers like last season again because he’s behind Gasol now. He was above average in most categories so still not hearing/seeing any good rationale from ownership or FO. Anyone heard anything? Definitely the most questionable move this offseason, even above this slight move.

      • Bricks

        Read PlatoPlaysBasketball’s post below (8 hours ago). Seriously, a fine analysis addressing your question about Arthur.

    • dynamo.joe

      Well, K2 had knee surgery after that Laker series for a ‘pre-existing injury’. So, I give him a pass for not being able to handle the best post up center in the league on a bum leg.

    • PlatoPlaysBasketball

      Its a move out of necessity. If we didn’t sign Mozgov we would have to play someone out of position to backup McGee, probably Hickson. That’s why the money is a little high, Mozgov had leverage. A fair sacrifice for Denver. On teaching rotations, lets hope Shaw teaches our bigs better than Karl did. Otherwise we’ll continue to see more Javale on Shaqtin A Fool than on SC Top 10.

  • Jr

    Seriously, a 3 year deal for this cupcake? Just a waste of money. Hopefully McGee is ready to play some serious minutes… I’ve liked most of the moves the Nuggets have made this offseason: getting rid of Karl so now we can have a better chance in the playoffs, losing Iggy but getting Hickson (4th in dbls-dbls in the league last year), Nate, Foye, Fournier and drafting the leader in PPG in college last year Green as our backups to Lawson and Chandler. If they all stay healthy Im liking the Nuggets chances more than most people, especially if Gallo comes back fully healthy. Forgot about Faried too. Still going to be fun to watch. Still going to get 50 wins if healthy, no doubt about that. Looking at the roster, I honestly don’t see why people think the Nuggets will struggle next year.

    • Ryan Chalstrom

      Except that Green won’t be on the roster now that Mozgov signed we have 15 players under contract which means no room for Green.

      • eddi0

        I’m guessing/betting QMiller is the one who is released, not Green. QMillèr looks like hes playing a different sport or rules when hes om the court. That is of course if there is no trades before the start of season, wishful thinking.

  • Trevor

    We needed to resign Mozgov but he is worth 2mil per year max. KK is a way better player than Moz and always will be most likely. Sucks things turned out like this for the Nuggets.

  • Vitor Lago

    If Mozgov had hands like McGee I think he would be an above average center in the NBA.

    • Ryan

      If pigs had wings, they would be able to fly…

      • Vitor Lago

        The thing is he could potentially develop that skill whereas pigs would need a major physical evolution.

  • David Tesler

    the best part is that Iggy will be on a non-playoff contenders for the next four years he’s under contract, and Denver suddenly find itself as the #1 ranking bad-ass motherfucker ready to take on Miami (after beating them twice in 2013-14 campaigns)

    Oh what a dream…

  • kwelitysoul

    Keep the name Danny Grainger in mind…

    • Bricks

      Wouldn’t that right our biggest wrong. I likey. We could then justifiably use Chandler at SG/wing when necessary.