Rapid Reaction: New Orleans Pelicans 105 – Denver Nuggets 89

The Nuggets’ woes continue on the road, as they now full-strength Pelicans handed the Nuggets their fifth straight loss. It’s getting ugly, folks.

Denver Nuggets 89 FinalRecap | Box Score 105 New Orleans Pelicans
J.J. Hickson, PF 36 MIN | 7-9 FG | 2-6 FT | 10 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 16 PTS | -4J.J

Hickson is like bread — his double-doubles are empty calories.

Wilson Chandler, SF 37 MIN | 7-20 FG | 5-6 FT | 9 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 22 PTS | -11

Chandler was far and away the best player tonight, not to mention of the few that didn’t appear hungover. He didn’t shoot the ball all that well, but we’ll forgive that in light of his aggression.

Jordan Hamilton, SF 32 MIN | 5-13 FG | 0-2 FT | 7 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 0 TO | 12 PTS | -5

Good for Hamilton. He gets his first start, and provides a nice shooting lift sorely lacking the past month or so. 5-13 isn’t a terrific shooting line, but knocking down shots as a starter has to give Hamilton some confidence going forward.

Timofey Mozgov, C 28 MIN | 4-8 FG | 0-0 FT | 9 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 1 BLK | 0 TO | 8 PTS | -3

I honestly have nothing to say about Mozgov, positive, negative, or otherwise. Except this: in theory, starting Mozgov next to a defensive sieve such as Hickson isn’t a bad idea. However, Hickson is SUCH a horrendous defender that Mozgov is constantly clearing up his mistakes, which then leaves openings for Mozgov’s man. This is why the Mozgov/Arthur pairing works so well — both are at the very, very least adept on defense.

Ty Lawson, PG 36 MIN | 3-12 FG | 8-8 FT | 1 REB | 12 AST | 3 STL | 0 BLK | 8 TO | 14 PTS | -9

Just an odd, off night for Lawson. Getting to the line eight times is nice, as is knocking all of them down, but his poor shooting and eight turnovers are troubling. It almost feels as if Lawson’s struggling to find a balance between finding his shot and finding shots for others. It’s caused him to over-think at points, to pass when he should shoot, shoot when he should pass. Hopefully, Lawson regains his comfort soon.

Quincy Miller, SF 13 MIN | 4-6 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 9 PTS | -3

Shaw, looking for any sort of spark, went to Miller in the third quarter, and lo and behold, Miller actually did things! Good things! No, I promise, I saw it with my own eyes! Miller hasn’t had much of an opportunity to play this season, and maybe this performance is the one that opens the door to more minutes.

Anthony Randolph, SF 20 MIN | 3-7 FG | 2-2 FT | 4 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 2 BLK | 2 TO | 8 PTS | -11

Just…this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhGhWmI1o58

Andre Miller, PG 15 MIN | 0-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 0 PTS | -10

Matching up with Jrue Holiday, Tyreke Evans and even Brian Roberts spelled doom for Miller from the get-go.

Nate Robinson, PG 16 MIN | 0-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 0 PTS | -16

16 ineffective minutes for Nate, as the size of the Pellie’s back court proved too much even for his fiery self.

Randy Foye, SG 7 MIN | 0-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | -8

The struggle is real, and it continues.

Darrell Arthur, PF DNP QUAD INJURY MIN | FG | FT | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PTS |

Miss you, Darrell.

Brian Shaw

Look, the Pelicans are a good, talented team. When last the Nuggets faced them, they were without Anthony Davis, destroyer of worlds and offenses. Davis was back in the starting line up tonight, and performed to the tune of 17 points, 7 rebounds, four blocks, and approximately 1000 shots altered. Thus, the Nuggets can be forgiven somewhat for not performing as they did in Denver.

Somewhat.

Granted, Darrell Arthur’s absence hurt the defense, but 89 points from this offense, with the weapons at its disposal just won’t cut it. Simply put, the offense is completely out of sync. There’s no flow to their ball movement, picks are set seemingly without purpose, and it’s tough to tell what the desired end result is of any play.

One Thing We Saw

  1. This isn’t necessarily a terrible roster. What it is, however, is an ill-fit roster for the current coach. Shaw wants a back to the basket big man. JJ Hickson will never be that player, no matter how much Shaw wants him to be. Kenneth Faried will never be that player, which is why we shouldn’t be surprised if he isn’t on this roster at the end of the season. JaVale McGee will never be that player, because it’s JaVale McGee. The bench unit remains one of the best defensive second units in the league, but the defense Shaw wants to implement just doesn’t work with the likes of Hickson, Faried and Foye.

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  • herpderpnuggets

    This game made me realize that this team needs to make a trade so badly. Silver lining tonight was Quincy miller though. He looked really confident

  • googergieger

    On the plus, New York lost.

    Anyways, front office gets an F, for well everything.

    But yeah, what does this team want to do, and what kind of coach does Shaw want to be? Still have no idea. Like many others, the frustrations are starting to just become one big “meh”.

    • David Acker

      no identity

  • Poz303

    Q. Miller the bright spot on a dark night.

    Lawson cant go left. Offense stands around perimeter. No ball movement.

    Horrible to watch, harder to swallow after a 57 win season, and being the most entertaining team in NBA.

    Ill Will was Ok, JJ good on O bad on D. JHam an upgrade on Foye.

    Oh, I guess Knicks losing again is also a bright spot.

  • Sharkboy242

    Another bright spot: New Orleans fans get free fries!

    • Poz303

      yes, and they get them when the Pelicans reach 100 points.

  • Poz303

    And whats up with Fournier? No PT today either. Could he be any worse than Foye right now???

    • LBJ

      I love how Shaw is “developing” him!

      • Poz303

        Maybe the secret to development is to get splinters on the bench. Q.Miller is proof that it works.

      • Pickles1731

        I think we should trust Shaw if he says that he really is developing him. Lance Stephenson and Paul George both said that Shaw had a huge part in their development and look how great these guys are. Give it some time. Shaw is smart defensive man, he just has some of the worst players for his system in the NBA.

        • LBJ

          We only control Fournier for another year. We don’t have 5 years to wait. We need to find out if he can play now. It’s not like this team is going anywhere.

          • Pickles1731

            Very true. We still have about 2/3 the season left, so hopefully he starts playing him before the all-star break. Good to see Quincy get some time though!

        • googergieger

          Stephenson is another stats don’t tell the whole story, guy. He just plays so out of control, has no control when he “dribbles” the ball. He is a good defender, but outside of that, he puts up stats but man is he ugly to watch.

          • Pickles1731

            Stephenson has the most triple doubles in the NBA. The guy is having a great year AND he plays defense. He may be out of control at times but he would be a top 3 player on the Nuggets right now, hands down.

            • googergieger

              No, he never has control when he dribbles the ball. He gets away with carries and travels, and still. Ugly player to watch. Top three player on this team? Ty, Gallo, Chandler are our best three. Gallo and Chandler, I’d say are better two way guys then Stephenson. He’s probably a better two way guy than everyone else we got though, but that isn’t saying much.

              • Pickles1731

                I would trade Chandler straight up for Stephenson right now. Chandler gives this team nothing some nights. Stephenson may be “out of control”, but at least he goes out and gives it his all every night. I will take some out of control turnovers for energy off the bench. Heck, he can even shoot threes!

              • googergieger

                I’ll take anyone that is willing to give us effort every night. I’ll agree on that. I don’t think Stephenson would be as effective on this team though. He benefits from playing with three guys that need attention, and playing on what is now probably considered a super star team.

  • Branden Gloudeman

    I don’t understand why ty isn’t being aggressive as much as he was before?

    • googergieger

      I think Shaw has lost the team in general. They have given up. No fight in them. He might be exhausted as well. Doesn’t have much help out there and is playing way too many minutes.

      • Pickles1731

        Shaw hasn’t lost the team in my opinion, I just don’t think we are that good. Foye finally fell back to his old shooting ways, Wilson isn’t the same player he was when we traded Melo for him, Hickson/Faried are terrible defenders, and Lawson/Chandler/McGee/Gallo/Faried have all missed time this year. If he had a healthier team with some more great defenders like Arthur we would look way better.

        • googergieger

          That’d be an argument, but look at the teams we’ve lost to lately. Evan probably hs confronted Shaw, or at least Shaw has noticed Evan ins’t happy with his minutes. Ty seems deflated. If the team was fighting and giving one hundred percent effort every night, I think you could say they believe in Shaw and what he wants to do. But that doesn’t seem to be the case does it?

          • Pickles1731

            That’s my point, the teams we have lost to lately are PHX, OKC, LAC, GSW, and NOH. That’s 4 playoff teams and a fringe playoff team. With the tough schedule and injuries piling up, I am not surprised by our lack of great play lately. I agree though, Fournier needs more minutes (he still has Ginobili type upside imo). I think Ty is tired of carrying this team. Nobody else can drive or create their own shot on this team besides him. I still think we need MUCH better defensive minded players. They are out there, it just might take some trades and offseason signings to bring them to Shaw.

            • googergieger

              Utah as well. Were dominating Phoenix as well, only to lose that one. You look at some teams out there that are worse than us, they have more fight. Even in games they have no business being in, or aren’t even in. You see their coach more fired up. Willing to get a tech for the team. Shaw seems lost and overwhelmed out there, and the team just seems lost and lethargic as well.

      • gimpcom187

        Ty has 1.5-2 stellar months a year. November was 1 of those months for him. December has been a bad month. Theres no real mystery other than he is small and injuries affect your rhythm. Hes aborderline top 10 pg (if you correctly value his below avg defense). He has months where he looks like he is a top 5 pg like in november when he is really healthy and his shot is on and his teammates are shooting well. Thenhe has december months. Theyre both who he is. All players see this ebb and flow ( tim duncan was poor in november and hes been stellar in december). Tys number 3 guy on a championship team. As long as the other two guys are a top 10 nba player and another allstar. Lets stop pretending hes a savior type.

        • googergieger

          I don’t know who you think you are talking to and what argument you are trying to have with them.

          • gimpcom187

            Not an “argument” thats your thing. You explained lawsons play as due to exhaustion and shaw losing the team. I gave a more reasoned response that drives the reality home that people on this site should see ty for who he is. Your welcome.

            If I wanted to argue with id just point out our stances on karl and the results so far. ;-)

            • googergieger

              So you just have no idea who you are talking to in general then? Alright.

              • gimpcom187

                Uh huh. Both posts were clearly germane to the topic.when you dont have a cogent reply you just use nonsensical diversionary tactics as if this were debate club or a mock trial in middle school. If you dont have an intelligent reply feel free to not do so. Your tactics never worked with me. You seem smart enough to figure that out, but maybe im being overly optimistic.

              • googergieger

                I didn’t say Ty was a savior. I think he is a top ten guy at his position. I don’t think he can be the best player on a championship team. I don’t even think he is the best player we have on this team, but probably the most important one.

                So again, who the eff were you talking to when you replied to me?

              • Sharkboy242

                He’s replying to the original quote in this branch… Its not that hard to figure out dude.

              • googergieger

                And seeing as he replied to that post…

                You know what forget it. Going to go play Xillia. Have fun kiddos.

              • Sharkboy242

                He obviously made a mistake by clicking reply to the wrong author. Its not that hard to figure out dude.

  • LBJ

    Time to pull the plug. This team is going nowhere.

    • Pickles1731

      The question is, where do you pull the plug? Which players should be traded? Not too many besides Lawson have much value in my opinion.

      • LBJ

        I agree. But let’s play our young guys. Foye, Nate rob, Dre – have no future value for this franchise.

        • Pickles1731

          True. Playing the young guys develops some good talent and also lets you get away with some “sneaky tanking”. All guys are tradable now which is nice. Trade Nate to a team in need of scoring off the bench and Miller to a team that needs a veteran backup pass first guy. Quincy and Fournier need more minutes for sure.

  • Pickles1731

    Nuggets are 15th in Points per game and 15th in Points Allowed per game. We are literally the most average NBA team in the whole league. You either want to be a top 8 team in this league or a bottom 8 team in the league. Being stuck in the middling “fringe playoff” area is terrible for rebuilding (look at the Bucks). We need to get better or worse starting now, and since the West is absolutely loaded this year I say we blow things up and get worse (as painful as it is to say that).

    • Poz303

      though we were missing three “starters” and Arthur tonight. So with that in mind, it’s difficult to judge the Nuggets right now with any finality. I just dislike how the offense is so stagnant, no ball movement,

      • David Acker

        I know they have injuries but the lack of energy is a real concern. They depend too much on Ty and Faried for energy. These guys are pros bring your own energy damn it.

  • heykyleinsf

    sooooo…. been a while since Gallo update.. (a month?)
    last I heard jogging/running? Running full court suicide intervals yet? At least walking them?

    • Poz303

      I have heard his legs are 30% stronger now than before the injury. Not sure how that is measured but thats what was written.

      Still no timetable for return as far as I know.

      • heykyleinsf

        thanks Poz

        • herpderpnuggets

          saw a tweet today that said he added a lot of jumping to his workout routines

  • Darius

    Never did I think I’d actually be screaming “YES QUINCY” without any sarcasm involved. Anthony Randolph is down right terrible. Wilson looked good, took a lot of shoots. That’s all I could ask for since we are in desperate need of a scorer. Overall not a bad night considering we were without 3 Starters and Darrell. Maybe we can beat Memphis and then pull a big ol’ upset on Miami.

  • Branden Gloudeman

    Im really still trying to figure out how we can look so darn good at times then just downright terrible other times.. where is this inconsistency coming from?!?!

  • Aaron

    You know you’re team sucks when Quincy Miller was probabl6 the best Nuggets player tonight…

  • Richard Pesicka

    Out classed, Out played, Out coached.

  • heykyleinsf

    We could have kept Brewer if it weren’t for trying to keep Iguodala.
    I can understand trying to keep Iggy..
    but Iggy never intended to stay.
    Iggy is really screwing us good this year in all kinds of ways.

  • denvernougat

    Why haven’t we traded for Greg Monroe?