Rapid Reaction: New York Knicks 117 – Denver Nuggets 90

It’s getting tiring, folks.

Denver Nuggets 90 FinalRecap | Box Score 117 New York Knicks
Kenneth Faried, PF 29 MIN | 5-9 FG | 2-2 FT | 4 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 5 TO | 12 PTS | -28It’s getting tiring watching entire possessions committed to posting up Faried and watching him brick a lefty-floater. It’s getting tiring watching stretch-fours of any caliber consistently light him up.

Wilson Chandler, SF 32 MIN | 6-13 FG | 3-3 FT | 7 REB | 0 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 17 PTS | -12It’s getting tiring watching Chandler take bad shot after bad shot. It’s getting tiring watching his reputation as a good wing defender precede him, but rarely seeing him pick up the opposing team’s best player. It’s getting tiring watching him get burned in the rare cases that he does.

J.J. Hickson, C 27 MIN | 1-4 FG | 1-4 FT | 6 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 3 PTS | -5It’s getting tiring watching J.J. Hickson gobble rebounds with insane aggression when there’s two other Nuggets players around him. It’s getting tiring watching that aggression fade into the ether when the guy he has to box out puts up any kind of fight. It’s getting tiring watching him not just over-hedge on a pick and roll, but over-hedge ON EVERY PICK AND ROLL. It’s getting tiring watching him flounder as he plays out of position, and watching him rack up starter-level minutes anyway.

Ty Lawson, PG 39 MIN | 9-17 FG | 6-6 FT | 1 REB | 7 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 24 PTS | -16It’s getting tiring watching Ty Lawson shoulder the entire offense. It’s getting tiring watching him start a fast break that no one bothers to follow up on. It’s getting tiring seeing him get tired playing close to 40 minutes a night. It’s getting tiring watching his pin-point passes slip out of a rolling big’s hands.

Randy Foye, SG 31 MIN | 5-13 FG | 0-0 FT | 6 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 13 PTS | -13It’s getting tiring watching Foye jack ridiculous pull up threes in transition (actually I’m lying, that never gets old). It’s getting tiring watching him have to run the offense when Lawson sits, and it’s tiring watching the offense crater when he’s at the helm.

Darrell Arthur, PF 9 MIN | 0-2 FG | 2-2 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 2 PTS | -3It’s getting tiring watching Arthur’s minutes get jerked around like he’s Anthony Randolph. It’s getting tiring watching his patented mid-range jumper at the elbow hit the front of the rim. It’s getting tiring watching him play the only competent pick and roll defense on the team.

Jordan Hamilton, SF 11 MIN | 0-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 0 PTS | -10It’s getting tiring seeing Hamilton rise from the dead when things are going bad, and then put to rest again when things get worse.

Quincy Miller, SF 16 MIN | 1-4 FG | 5-6 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 8 PTS | -15It’s getting tiring watching Quincy Miller’s leash getting loosened, only to know that a string of bad games could make him go by way of Jordan Hamilton.

Anthony Randolph, SF 9 MIN | 1-2 FG | 0-1 FT | 1 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | -8It’s getting tiring watching Randolph come in for a brief, desperate stretch every three games and then watching him return to the bench when things only get worse.

Timofey Mozgov, C 16 MIN | 2-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 4 PTS | -13It’s tiring watching Mozgov languish on the bench while J.J. Hickson is on the opposite end of the court while his man is dunking. It’s getting tiring coming up with reasons as to why Shaw can’t see what seems so obvious to everyone else.

Evan Fournier, SG 20 MIN | 2-6 FG | 0-2 FT | 2 REB | 2 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 5 PTS | -12It’s getting tiring watching Fournier forced to play point guard when he just can’t do it. It’s getting tiring watching him fade into the background when he isn’t dominating the ball.

Brian ShawIt’s getting tiring watching Shaw throw darts at his rotation. It’s getting tiring watching him struggle with a roster he doesn’t seem to want. It’s getting tiring watching the offense wax and wane from game to game. It’s getting tiring watching him cite effort as a big issue and then not know how to solve it.

One Thing We Saw

  1. We’ve hit the malaise of mediocrity hard, and there doesn’t seem to be any kind of respite on the horizon. What is there to look forward to on a team playing in a conference where the playoffs are looking more and more like an impossibility? When we’re relying on the team that just crushed Denver to lose enough to get a high lottery pick in the loaded draft. JaVale McGee is going to go another season as potential unfulfilled, and it’s likely going to take another for the team to realize that its something unlikely to ever be achieved. Gallo isn’t there to provide a hope for salvation in the future and Nate Robinson isn’t even here to provide his particular brand of enthralling theatrics. It’s getting tiring watching mediocrity perpetuate itself. It’s getting tiring watching the Denver Nuggets play basketball.


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  • Sharkboy242

    WoW. There’s really no hope for anything this season. I thought we were going to kind of turn things around tonight but that was just embarrassing.

    • Paul Griggs

      That’s not what you said before the season started

      • heykyleinsf

        You mean when we thought we would have Gallo back in December, develop Javale into a world class 5, stole the dude that was the hero of a triple OT playoff game, and a new coach that inspired the players?? Wow dude.. we should have listened to you when you advised us to impale ourselves on our swords.

        • Paul Griggs

          This team would have been much better with Karl as coach and Masai in the FO. This team is disjointed, can’t play defense worth a darn, has limited depth and has wild mood swings. Karl was a HOF coach that got more out of the players’ limited talent. The new FO screwed up the team with their silly off season moves. The players that left–Iggy and Brewer and Koufos were better than most people gave them credit for and Shaw and the FO saying they were going to build around McGee were foolish. He’s athletic but has no basketball sense and now he’s injured. Karl at least had the common sense to play a system that fit the players’ strengths…Shaw is trying to force them to play his system and Faried and Lawson are suffering for it. Lawson is a nice offensive player but an overall liability because he scores 20 and dishes 8 assists but gives up 25 and 10 to the player he’s supposed to be guarding. This team is not going to the playoffs now or anytime soon.

          • LBJ

            Right on target. The damage Joshy has done to this franchise will reverberate for years.

          • heykyleinsf

            that’s all true Paul…
            but with Gallo, Javale and Nate alll healthy…
            you can only wonder what might have been.
            Gallo was as important to us as anyone last year
            I think he really is missed
            he plays defense and he has fire
            two things obviously absent lately
            it’s still amazing that we have managed to get a couple big wins. We draft wisely.. do FA wisely.. get everyone healthy.. then let’s see.
            This year is tanked..
            but I look at Portland…
            They lost their last 13 games last year
            Finished 33-49
            what a difference a year makes both ways
            We lost two starters and our 6th man..
            and we’re down to one PG.
            Cut these guys a little slack.

          • Sharkboy242

            Cry me a river old man. What’s done is done. You have a serious infatuation with George Karl that you need to get over… The sooner you accept that he’s gone the better off you will be.

  • Branden Gloudeman

    I don’t know what u expect we just lost Nate Robinson our spark plug off the bench and not to mention ty has no help with the scoring what so ever inside or outside and then to top it off mozgov and Arthur don’t get the minute’s that they really should which really really puzzles me……. we seriously need to give Q more min tho he has got a lot of potential A LOT I’d rather see him play a lot more than Fournier

  • LBJ

    I thought shaw said Arthur was our best defender? Why not put him on Melo instead of Faried and chandler?

  • Tyler Stevens

    This is ridiculous. No thank you. Please sit Ty the rest of the year. It’s getting mighty dumb to leave him out there extended minutes just to lose. None of my teams ever seem to do anything really productive or expected. At least the panthers had a winning record and lost in the playoffs this year. Oh well, better luck next year (not really though).

  • Richard Pesicka

    P U

  • heykyleinsf

    I have a friend in NYC who was at the Garden tonight. Said he never has witnessed as much of a joke on defense in NBA history as Manimal put on display tonight. I don’t take KF for lazy or careless.. but.. some kind of awful guarding Melo tonight. SMDH about Shaw leaving him.. and the team.. exposed for embarrassment like that.
    But I’m not slitting my wrists. We did beat Indy, GSW and LAC.
    Relax. Enjoy what you can when you can.

  • wij

    Is the state the Nuggets are in a legacy of Karl? If you are playing no defence, taking nothing but shots in the paint and running no play for a number of seasons, it’s going to take time to change these habits, that is if it’s not too late for some players already!

    • tigglon

      Yes, it must be the Coach of the Year’s fault, the only guy who could possibly make a roster like this win games.

      I’ll remind you that the *entire* logic of firing Karl was to get a coach that would give this team some half-court discipline and thus a chance in the playoffs. That was the plan. Don’t blame Karl for Kroenke and Shaw failing to follow their own plan.

      There were those of us who reminded everybody that you have to win games to make the playoffs, but all we heard in response were braying noises and fingers in ears.

      • wij

        I’m not saying it’s a “fault” of Karl’s, I’m saying it is the “result” of Karl’s flawed system.

        I’m no massive fan of Kroenke, but Karl did force his hand in a way. Did he not demand a multi-year extension for his assistants and himself where as management wanted to see how this season would have played out?

        Karl would have had no Gallinari, no McGee and no Iguodala also. Gallinari was the guy the team would chuck the ball at when a defence stopped them running and would leave him to create a shot for himself.

        Who know’s what different free agents may have been signed if Karl was around, but could you seriously say that this team, with the loss of the above mentioned player would have been doing much better with Karl anyways?

        • tigglon

          I’m saying it is naive and foolish corporatism to have tossed aside one of the best coaches in the league solely to “make a change”. This is how dimwitted 20-year-old MBAs think.

          And a guy who was awarded coach of the year asking for extensions is entirely par for the course; especially as we know now Kroenke had no particular post-Ujiri game plan.

          • wij

            Karl was arguably the best coach last year but do you ever see him coaching again? I can’t see him wanting to coach a rebuilding team and I can’t see a contending team taking him with his limited playoff success.

            Karl was getting long in the tooth… he even said in a couple of interviews he was deferring more and more to his assistants and just did not have the energy anymore. These are not the words I want to hear from someone looking for a multi-year extension.

            • tigglon

              But why not have a post-Karl plan before you get rid of him? How is it that only now is it dawning on people that “anyone-but-karl” is not a strategy?

  • ny nugs fan

    went to the game last night and the nugs were in it and then just collapsed

    faried looks completely lost; horrible defender and has no idea what a pick-and-roll even means… he needs a basketball intervention

    and it seems that fournier is going backwards, not getting better; this guy is now a turnover waiting to happen; he should not be bringing the ball up (period); what happend to the backdoor cuts? catching the ball in the paint and finishing? please run some plays for this dude

    the nugs were in there at the half and then the starters played most of the 3rd quarter and that was it folks

    and i would love to know what the nugs are saving quincy miller for, especially with all the injuries

  • Furious_Stylez

    It’s hard to win when you have no bench. Fournier, Arthur, Randolph, Miller, Mozgov and Hamilton cannot be relied on. Where’s the bench scoring gonna come from? Fournier and Hamilton haven’t developed quickly enough. Arthur and Randolph suck. Mozgov and (Quicy) Miller have been nice surprises this season, but their both inconsistent.

    I can’t believe Andre Miller hasn’t been traded yet. The second Nate went down, Connolly should have been glued to the phone until he could deal Miller for another guard. At this point, any half-decent PG will do. The longer Miller sits, the less he’s worth. Stop f–king around and trade him ASAP.

  • Dan Sivertson

    There is a really great coach available after this season that the Nuggets could pick up. I saw him on NBA TV this week doing sports commentary. He was well-tanned, smiling ear-to-ear, and very enthusiastic. As usual, his basketball knowledge was outstanding. His name is George Karl. I think he can get the Nuggets into the playoffs in 2015. I doubt that Mr. Shaw will in 2014. The Nuggets show flashes of brilliance. For that we are all grateful, but going with the 1/2 court grind – that’s just not Nuggets basketball. I have a really hard time watching this team. It’s just no fun anymore. Last year was a lot of fun, yes it was frustrating to see the Nuggets go down to Golden State – I hated that, but I loved watching the Nuggets games during the regular season. I don’t even turn the games on anymore. It’s not worth it.

    • Cory

      Who cares about the playoffs when you WILL be one and done Karl won Regular Season games. Dude is like Peyton Manning in the NBA. Shaw has played and coached on championship caliber teams. I’m pretty sure he is trying to do the same. Karl only cares about three’s layups and points in the paint. Not defense, not schemes, not even mid range jumpers that are open.

      • Dan Sivertson

        I’m not sure what Shaw is trying to accomplish. All I know is it’s not working yet. The team is being decimated one player at a time. Your analysis of Karl is shallow and incomplete. Karl plays the hand he is dealt to the best of his ability. He is the anti-thesis of Shaw. At least Karl got us to the playoffs year after year. I doubt Shaw will be able to do that. We are basically just down to bench players right now with the exception of Faried. Part of being an NBA coach is not driving your own team into the ground. The NBA season is a long marathon, not a sprint.

        • Cory

          Shaw knows the players that are effective and ineffective at GUARD not any other positions. Foye and Lawson and Nate sometimes were the ones racking up all the minutes. Shaw on the other hand does play Hickson to much but his pick and roll is useful for Lawson. Karl couldn’t win in the post season. If he would have adapted his game as you say with the hand he was dealt he would have been developing the players to win in the playoffs while adapting to his players in the regular season. Karl didn’t know how to do that, plain and simple.

          • Dan Sivertson

            Shaw is ineffective and destroying his own team.

  • disqus_Zof8sHWvOp

    tiring coming to this post

  • disqus_Zof8sHWvOp

    you ever think it was the coach that put Faried on Melo you dweeb

  • Jazz

    Nuggets front office to this date is an embarramwnt. No moves to help shaw and why in the hell is miller still on the team. You,re losing your fan base, fast

  • COfoEVA

    Make a huge trade! Blow the team up and keep the center pieces of Lawson, Faried, and Gallo and prepare for next year. I hope we pick up someone good in the draft…

    • Dan Sivertson

      With our current management team, I doubt such a trade would go the way of the Nuggets. I think the Nuggets will get schooled in their next major trades as they did in 2013.

      • COfoEVA

        So what is your solution? Just sit and wait? We have the pieces for a good trade, they cant be complete morons.