Nuggets News: Jackson eyeing Shaw, Nuggets eyeing PGs?

According to ESPN.com, New York Knicks president Phil Jackson might turn his efforts towards prying Brian Shaw from the Denver Nuggets after missing out on Steve Kerr, who reached an agreement with the Golden State Warriors on May 15. Per ESPN:

Sources close to the process told ESPN.com that the most likely scenario, even after Jackson was snubbed by the only candidate he has considered for the position since taking the Knicks’ job in March, remains hiring a younger coach Jackson has worked with previously and can mentor…

Sources said Jackson also intends to explore whether the Denver Nuggets are in any way amenable to releasing Brian Shaw from his contract in exchange for some form of compensation. Shaw is a longtime Jackson favorite who, after missing out on numerous head-coaching jobs, just completed his first season with the Nuggets, posting a 36-46 record despite numerous injuries to front-line players.

But Shaw told the Denver Post on Thursday: “I’m not interested in doing anything other than what I’m doing right now.”

Had Shaw not taken Denver’s job last summer, sources say he would have been at the top of Jackson’s list with Kerr — and conceivably above Kerr — for the Knicks’ opening.

Christopher Dempsey of The Denver Post has reiterated multiple times through direct quotes that Shaw is not interested in coaching a team other than the Denver Nuggets at the moment. Of course, quotes are just quotes. It’s actions that count in the NBA, and until Jackson has concluded his search and Brian Shaw remains a Denver Nugget, this situation is worth monitoring.

In other news, the precocious Alex Kennedy of BasketballInsiders.com is reporting the Denver Nuggets met with at least three players on the first day of the NBA Draft Combine in Chicago: Tyler Ennis, Shabazz Napier and Marcus Smart. Interestingly enough, all three of these players are point guards, and while the Nuggets may (likely) have interviewed other prospects on Thursday it is somewhat interesting these are the only names in connection with Denver after half the Combine has played out. Perhaps there’s something I’m missing?

Regardless, of the three players mentioned above, Smart appears to be the least likely for the Nuggets barring a trade, as he’s been a consensus top 10 pick for the last two years. However, if you’re purely talking fit, Smart is without question the best option for the Nuggets as he’s big guard (6-4, 230 pounds) who could play off the ball next to the diminutive Ty Lawson.

As of right now Ennis and Napier stand much better chances of landing with the Nuggets on draft night. Neither is projected to be a top 10 pick at the moment, so if the Nuggets do decide to go the point-guard route on June 26, Tim Connelly would likely have his choice between the two at pick 11.

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  • Heisenberg

    It would be great to get rid of Shaw and get something for it. Not getting my hopes up, but would still be nice.

    I like all three of those PG’s. Maybe a trade in mind for Lawson? Seems kind of strange that no SG’s were mentioned since that’s their biggest need.

    • mike gomez

      smh!! so you don’t believe in giving someone a fair shot huh??

      • Heisenberg

        Shaw was well below average this year. He started showing improvement in the end but we don’t even know how legitimate that is due to tanking, teams already in the playoffs, etc etc.

        • mike gomez

          in what way was he below average coach?? i just cant understand your negative view toward a rookie coach that wasn’t given much to work with and had to dealt with alot injuries.

          • Heisenberg

            Well, it took him 50-60 games to realize that Mozgov was better than Hickson, something that was evident 10-15 games in. He also had some very questionable minute allocations and drew up some baffling play calls. The players also didn’t seem to respect him until late in the season. Then there’s the whole Andre Miller fiasco. Also players weren’t shooting during halftime some games, a clear indicator that Shaw didn’t have control of the team.

            • mike gomez

              well karl never realized mozgov was better than kofus, and kept him off the rotation. the other stuff could be said about karl as well. so that should make him below average coach according to you.

              • Heisenberg

                Koufos fit Karl’s system fine. Most of the things I mentioned can’t be applied to Karl. If anything Karl played McGee too much but that wasn’t really his fault.

                Respect was also never an issue with Karl.

              • mike gomez

                and mozgov didn’t?? he refuse to adjust and most of time had some head scratching lineups. i would say plays but he never ran any. respect was was not issue for shaw either, because he has tasted success as player and as a assistant. so i dont know where your getting that assumptions

              • Heisenberg

                Respect was a huge issue for Shaw throughout the season. I remember watching one game and Shaw was yelling at Foye to run a play, which Foye completely ignored.

                You can certainly argue that Mozzy should have played more, but you have to keep in mind that their frontcourt was crowded. And Koufos was productive anyway. Mozzy probably would have gotten more minutes if not for the front office’s insistence on playing McGee.

              • mike gomez

                that’s just making an assumption, because i saw different, at the begining of they season you could say they were doubting his style because it didnt work because we didn’t have the players to make it work. also mozzy and mcgee were the nuggets most productive bigs in the playoff two years in a row so that should say something

              • Heisenberg

                Karl took Koufos out of the starting lineup when he probably shouldn’t have.

        • Len Nunes

          From my vantage point, when Shaw was making decisions based on what he felt players needed, he made some head scratching moves.
          When injuries ravaged the lineup and Shaw was forced to coach a patchwork lineup, that’s when you saw improvement.
          It’s unfair to give up on Shaw after one year but the GM can’t go into 2014 with redundant parts such as Faried & Hickson or Randolph and Q Miller.
          Dumb the rotation down for Shaw and let him coach from that point on. He has shown he can do that.

    • Sharkboy242

      And people say their criticism of Shaw is fair. You’re an idiot.

      • gimpcom187

        Friendly reply. Theres really nothing that ACTUALLY happened last year that suggests shaw is good. You can argue to give him another year to see how he does with a likely healthier roster. But saying you can get decent compensation for him from the knicks for a guy that should HAVE to increase by 10 wins to just be retained is pretty reasonable.

        • Sharkboy242

          I don’t think you could have worded that any worse.

          • gimpcom187

            Sure I could have. I could have written a one sentence reply with pure negativity and no incite whatsoever. As if I were a first grader. But that is your niche shark boy.

            • Sharkboy242

              Because I seriously could not not understand it (your last sentence).

              • gimpcom187

                you called someone an “idiot’ for saying something that was reasonable. It’s reasonable to assume Shaw better increase the nugs wins to 46 plus or he’s a sitting duck coach. It’s not that difficult to understand.

              • Sharkboy242

                As long as you acknowledge that a whole other season is necessary before dismissing someone… Heisenberg’s point was not about that at all. Hence why I called him an idiot.

              • Heisenberg

                I’m willing to give him another chance but if they can get any decent compensation then trade him.

                I was not a fan of hiring Shaw in the first place, I preferred guys with experience such as SVG, Hollins, etc etc. It is unlikely Shaw will even be AS GOOD as those guys let alone better.

      • Heisenberg

        Yeah, for next year let’s just have Mozgov shoot a three every time down. He might make a couple then.

        • Sharkboy242

          Still crying over losses that meant absolutely nothing I see.

          • Heisenberg

            Except he was coaching to win those games.

        • heykyleinsf

          wow.. still milking that?
          wow. ooohkkeeeyyy…

          • Heisenberg

            If people would admit that it’s a terrible play call that would be the end of it.

  • Poz303

    While I don’t think Shaw would consider the Knicks job, if the offer involved Hardaway Jr. It might be worth listening to. Don’t think this is at all likely and I am more than happy to see Shaw coaching the Nuggets next season.

    On the combine, Zach LaVine might have raised his stock quite a bit, along with Stauskas.

    • Heisenberg

      Yeah Hardaway Jr. seems a bit optimistic. I’m thinking maybe a lottery protected future first rounder.

      • Sharkboy242

        I think you’re a delusional.

        • Heisenberg

          Teams would rather give up late first rounders than second round picks. In most coach trades there is a draft pick involved.

          But thanks for contributing nothing. You’ve done quite a bit of that in this thread.

          • Sharkboy242

            What first round pick are you talking about? The last time I checked the Knicks didn’t have any first round upcoming picks (until 2017). Do you really think Phil Jackson is stupid enough to assume that pick will be a late first rounder? Come on man.

            • Heisenberg

              They have a 2015 pick. Not that it matters a whole ton. These coach trades almost always involve a draft pick, so it might be a second instead of a first. No need to get mad and throw a fit. But that appears to be your thing, as gimpcom said below.

              • Sharkboy242

                I’m not mad, you’re the one pleading for Shaw’s head on a stake because our D-league roster ‘underachieved’.

              • Heisenberg

                They didn’t have a D-League roster by any means. No stars, but the talent was far better than, say, the Lakers, 76ers, Bucks, etc etc. The Nuggets are deep in rotational talent, they have (or had) 8-9 legitimate NBA players.

                There isn’t much evidence to suggest that Shaw was anything other than below average. I’m willing to give him one more shot but if they can get decent compensation then it’s absolutely worth it, it’s unlikely he will ever become above average.

              • Sharkboy242

                Say what you will, but when you look at it from a $$ perspective we never got quiet what we paid for this season. McGee played four games and gets paid $10 Mil a year, Gallo didn’t play a single game and he gets over $10 a year also. Those two players alone cost more than Lebron James. Factor in all the other injuries and its very easy to see how we ended up with our final record. What I’m saying is that the ratio of the amount of money we spent over what we put in was probably among the lowest in the NBA. Why wouldn’t it be natural for our record to reflect that?

              • Heisenberg

                Obviously McGee is way overpaid. He’s a backup center, or at least should be. Gallo’s loss certainly hurts, but the value lost still doesn’t equate to a star.

                But I really don’t like to look at things from a monetary perspective, for obvious reasons. I wouldn’t consider losing Amare to be crushing for the Knicks, even though his salary would suggest otherwise. McGee and Gallo collectively are probably worth 6-7 wins.

  • Nugman

    Take anything you get for Shaw and run! That would be a lucky break for the Nuggets, but I’m sure this rumor has no merit. Jackson wouldn’t be interested in Shaw after watching him coach this season, unless he really believes he’s a zen master who can perform miracles.

    • mike gomez

      more unfair shaw hate from you i see

      • Nugman

        It’s not hate. I wish the guy all the best. But the reality is he a did pretty poor job of coaching this season and I don’t like the idea of wasting a healthy roster with him next season.

        • mike gomez

          how did he do poor job?? he made the best of what he had and found ways to win games with 60% of the roster out. sure he has flaws, but who doesn’t. you have to him give shot to grow with the team and learn from each other.

          • Sharkboy242

            Don’t even bother arguing with him. This place seriously needs an ignore button or something,

            • gimpcom187

              Indeed. Ironically enough.

        • heykyleinsf

          what ever it is.. it’s ridiculous dude.
          Irrational and ridiculous.

    • heykyleinsf

      YEAH!!

      Listen to the Nugman!!

      He has superior basketball knowledge over Phil Jackson!

      • Heisenberg

        It’s pretty obvious Phil is looking for someone to control, and is not basing his search off credentials.

        • Sharkboy242

          So he’s going to trade a first rounder for someone he can simply control?

          This freaking guy. You’re killing me man. Apparently you’re way ahead of Phil Jackson too. You should join the NBA seeing as how you got it all figured out LMAO.

          • Heisenberg

            Game 5? CP3 never should have even been in that position, turning over the ball recklessly. Won’t even get into the extraordinary ref help OKC got.

            And there is a way to make a point without resorting to childish name calling and petty insults. I don’t hate Shaw, I just think he’s below average, and the consensus would agree. His first year WAS below average and there is little argument otherwise.

            • Sharkboy242

              I agree to some extent that Shaw was average to below average for the season but I don’t at all agree with the notion that rebuilding is a smarter approach than building with what we currently have. I would never be one to say flush everything Shaw did this season down the toilet and start anew. That is foolish to me.

              • Heisenberg

                Personally without a top 3 pick I feel that this team is headed for a full scale rebuild. If the Nuggets are going to contend for a title, they need a star. It’s really tough to build on what they have and acquire that game changing talent. Any trade for a star would likely involve Lawson and Faried, and that’s just to start negotiations.

                Shaw’s unlikely to become better than several available coaches. I’m willing to give him another year but if we don’t see significant improvement it’ll be time to cut losses and find another coach.

  • heykyleinsf

    Last offseason.. I saw a lot of people on here that couldn’t wait to get rid of Andre Miller. it seemed like we were stuck with him forever. Then Shaw manages to unload him.. not for much.. but still he’s gone. Same people now criticizing Shaw for getting rid of Andre Miller.. I saw what you guys said last offseason. Don’t deny it.

    • Heisenberg

      More like there was no need to bring in Nate Robinson. Miller was a fine backup, especially for Denver’s athletic bigs. Guy is probably the greatest alley oop passer of all time.

      • heykyleinsf

        he’s also a tempo murderer.. a defensive no show and an attitude problem. Glad he’s gone.

        • Heisenberg

          Not like Robinson can play defense either.

          • Aaron Durkin

            at least he tries or acts like he tries. Miller does nothing on D

  • Richard Pesicka

    The proof is in the pudding. Next season with a healthy roster, we will see what Shaw and the team does. I think everyone knows if the team does bad, the coach goes. You can Hickson all night long, but in the end, the coach goes. That’s life in the NBA. So next season it’s do or die for Shaw. I’m no Shaw hater. I have a lot of respect for him. And just for the heck of it, yesterday I went to a benefit sale in the springs here, and shook Rick Barry’s hand again. I go to their sale every year. Nice guy.

  • Chris Nicholas

    I’m not a big fan of Shaw, but Faried would have never taken strides toward becoming a legit NBA star under Karl. I think that Faried started to buy in, and the rest of the team started to come around. Give him a little more time. Your not going to get anything in return that will help the Nuggets win. Kronk’s wallet will get a little fatter, or we will get a low draft pick that will amount to nothing.